RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, Nile said: Are the NBR coaches actually painted? It doesn't look like the LBSCR ones I have are, apart from the roof. Yes it certainly looks like paint but I’m not scraping it to check 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigw Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Compound2632 said: The reference you quote is a book on structure colours. Does it specifically state that the same applied to paint used in the Carriage & Wagon paint shop? The book contains extracts and minutes from the GWR paint committee. The extracts in the book are about structures but there is nothing to indicate that rolling stock was treated any differently nor can I think of any reason it would be? Regards, Craig W 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2021 38 minutes ago, Craigw said: The book contains extracts and minutes from the GWR paint committee. The extracts in the book are about structures but there is nothing to indicate that rolling stock was treated any differently nor can I think of any reason it would be? Regards, Craig W "Paint Committee" - the GWR management structure was clearly different. I'd assume that paint for structures would be the province of the Engineer's Department and for rolling stock, the Carriage & Wagon Department. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigw Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: "Paint Committee" - the GWR management structure was clearly different. I'd assume that paint for structures would be the province of the Engineer's Department and for rolling stock, the Carriage & Wagon Department. That is what I have found very interesting with the whole approach. One of the items raised as being a concern for the committee was the exposure of employees to lead and its health consequences. Incidentally, the Chair of the committee was one W.S Stanier when it was formed. Regards, Craig W 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Nile said: I've found the lining comes off quite easily, handle with care! This is on the teak coaches, others might be different. Are you suggesting that merely rubbing with ones hands will remove the lining, or did you have some assistance? Apart from one loco, which I handle very carefully, I have no ready to run stock, and any lining or lettering on my models is protected with satin varnish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted February 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2021 I've managed to remove some lining during my handling, but then I have been messing about with mine. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 The lining is pretty tough on mine and I wanted it off hence the resort to a brown marker pen referenced earlier. If anyone updates theirs along the lines I did the battery box needs to be bolted to the chassis if its going to be used a leverage point for getting the body off. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 15 hours ago, PaulRhB said: Yes it certainly looks like paint but I’m not scraping it to check Are the sides moulded in clear plastic. The ends on the brake coaches appear to be, which has caused a problem with light leakage as the paint appears to be quite thin. I am currently awaiting some LBS&CR coaches with lights, so have not been able to check this for myself yet. Ray 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, wainwright1 said: Are the sides moulded in clear plastic. No, just the end of the brake. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Thanks for all the advice so far, just two more questions, Has anyone established the tightest curve that the Hornby 6 wheelers will negotiate without wheel jamming or derailment? Secondly, Hornby only seem to be making the 4 wheel brake third in three liveries, GWR, LBSCR, and LSWR, does anyone know if they will be extending this in the future, hopefully North British? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokotela Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Regarding Hatton’s dates, I’ve just received an invoice for the balance of my NBR rake with dispatch imminent. I suspect the dates are for new pre-orders. The break third came last week, along with the LNWR 4w brake. Stephen 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willjam39 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just had an email from Hatton's saying they cant fulfil my pre order on the southern ones. This is getting ridiculous between Hornby and Hatton's. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2021 Hi everyone, Spoke earlier with my local model shop, and these coaches got mentioned. They seem to be selling out quickly. Regards, Alex. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Dokotela said: Regarding Hatton’s dates, I’ve just received an invoice for the balance of my NBR rake with dispatch imminent. I suspect the dates are for new pre-orders. The break third came last week, along with the LNWR 4w brake. Stephen Me too, which makes me very happy, but it suggests that Hattons are scrambling to get enough stock to honour the pre-orders with nothing left over for general stock 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) Its the fallacy of taking pre-orders before the actual order quantity is confirmed and the fact that to too many Hattons are the only trader - if your order is less than £175 it will be automatically cheaper elsewhere given post free offers by other retailers (Gaugemaster over £15, Derails £20 and Time Tunnel £30) Edited February 10, 2021 by Butler Henderson 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2021 9 hours ago, wainwright1 said: Are the sides moulded in clear plastic. Ray 9 hours ago, Nile said: No, just the end of the brake. Thats useful to know. How are the ends fixed in and are they part of the glazing or a separate item? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Need to change the handles on my "LCDR" coach - they were vertical with handrail knobs top and bottom as shown in this picture of a brake 3rd. Noting the polished metal appearance does anyone make steel handrail knobs or alternatively is there a simple way of making brass look like polished steel? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2021 53 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Thats useful to know. How are the ends fixed in and are they part of the glazing or a separate item? The glazed ends are separate parts, glued to the rest of the body. They are common to both the full brake and brake third. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) Are the duckets also a separate moulding ? I wonder if there is any intention to provide alternative ends for more generic coaches ? All the best Ray Edited February 10, 2021 by wainwright1 Extra info 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, Nile said: The glazed ends are separate parts, glued to the rest of the body. They are common to both the full brake and brake third. Just now, wainwright1 said: I wonder if there is any intention to provide alternative ends for more generic coaches ? All the best Ray Thank you. That means you can alter the end to your preferred configuration. I would use a clear plasticard end to the same shape with a laser cut or etched overlay. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, PhilJ W said: Thank you. That means you can alter the end to your preferred configuration. I would use a clear plasticard end to the same shape with a laser cut or etched overlay. Posted just now Are the duckets also a separate moulding ? All the best Ray 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 10, 2021 No they are part of the body. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2021 On 08/02/2021 at 12:37, JSpencer said: Today I received 4 GNR Generic coaches. These are to occasionally run behind my Stirling single and Atlantic C1 (both NRM versions). I have included the NRM LNER Dynometer(?) car in one photo for teak comparison. There seem to be too many wheels not on the rails in these pictures. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Budgie said: There seem to be too many wheels not on the rails in these pictures. Just the leading pair on the single. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted February 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, JSpencer said: Just the leading pair on the single. Look at the fourth picture. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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