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22 hours ago, Ravenser said:

 

Since steampunk is Victorian, that could be another angle for the tooling ultimately, though probably 6 wheelers.

 

How about a train pack for Sherlock Holmes' special in pursuit of Moriarty....

 

The GC's Barnum stock was actually developed from a circus train - hence the name...

N.B. Mike Pett does 4mm figures for Sherlock Holmes, Doctor Watson and Professor Moriarty. Very good too.

The professor also makes for a very good undertaker, doffing his top hat !

Ray

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On 18/01/2021 at 14:44, Caledonian said:

 I will cheerfully confess that I have taken one of the new Hornby LSWR brakes and repainted and lettered it as a Caledonian Railway Diagram 45 brake. The side windows had to go and there are other minor imperfections but apart from the fact that its overscale by a couple of millimetres its a very easy bodge.

I’m guessing that’s a typo for the Diagram number as that would be a bit more than a ‘very easy bodge’ turning a 24’ 4 wheel Full Brake into a 48’ bogied 6-compartment Brake Third!

The Hornby 4 wheel Full Brake is a passable representation of a Caledonian Railway Diagram 4 Passenger Brake Van, the LNWR version could be a good choice for a full passenger livery version going by the comments on the colour shades Hornby appear to have chosen.

 

Brian.

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10 minutes ago, turbos said:

I’m guessing that’s a typo for the Diagram number as that would be a bit more than a ‘very easy bodge’ turning a 24’ 4 wheel Full Brake into a 48’ bogied 6-compartment Brake Third!

The Hornby 4 wheel Full Brake is a passable representation of a Caledonian Railway Diagram 4 Passenger Brake Van, the LNWR version could be a good choice for a full passenger livery version going by the comments on the colour shades Hornby appear to have chosen.

 

Brian.

 

He was referring to goods brakes.

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36 minutes ago, turbos said:

I see, to much thread drift to keep up with it all.

 

Well we're on page 37 of this thread and page 107 of the Hattons thread.  Virtually saying the same things.

 

I think we went into thread drift a long time ago.  :prankster:

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3 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

Well we're on page 37 of this thread and page 107 of the Hattons thread.  Virtually saying the same things.

 

I think we went into thread drift a long time ago.  :prankster:

 

I think there have been a lot of pertinent things said on both threads, as well as some impertinent. Not thread drift so much as a very slow ascent achieved by going round in ever-diminishing circles.

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16 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

I think there have been a lot of pertinent things said on both threads, as well as some impertinent. Not thread drift so much as a very slow ascent achieved by going round in ever-diminishing circles.

As long as we don't end up like the oozlum bird. :jester:

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It is one of the wonders of RM Web that an oozlum bird can appear on a topic about Hornby 4 - 6 wheel period coaches.

 

Before more of these coaches appear on layouts you may be interested to know that we have three grounded LSWR 6 wheel coaches on the Swanage Railway.  The eventual object is to restore them to running order as a vintage train.

 

The picture shows No 0695 which arrived on the Swanage Railway on 8 May 1976 as our first item of rolling stock. It is a 34' long third class coach built in 1885 to LSWR Diagram DB66.  Such was the rapid development of coaching stock that the LSWR wrote off the coach in 1904 and it was sold to be used as a domestic outbuilding in 1921.  

 

A sight of the Hornby and Hattons coaches may inspire the Swanage Railway to restore the coaches into working order.

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My GN 4 wheeler has been deGNised, the GNR lettering comes off using the Sharpie marker trick with minimal damage but removing the crests on the doors also takes off a fair amount of the teak finish. Looking at photos of the Bluebells LCDR brake 4 wheeler the doors are generally different to the body work so having tried a Citadel wash on the doors that could be passable at a pinch but hoping WHS will have the requisites to do an oil colour treatment of them.

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17 hours ago, wainwright1 said:

N.B. Mike Pett does 4mm figures for Sherlock Holmes, Doctor Watson and Professor Moriarty. Very good too.

The professor also makes for a very good undertaker, doffing his top hat !

Ray

 

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5 hours ago, Edwardian said:

 

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Dare I say it, but to me they're not as good as the Stadden figures, although obviously he doesn't do these two in 4mm/ft.

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On 19/01/2021 at 13:15, 2750Papyrus said:

 

I have watched several videos of the 6 wheelers but none have really tested their running and track-holding ability on complex trackwork.  Has anybody experience of this yet?


In the review video I posted my six wheel coach was subjected to extensive running on curves, over pointwork and over 5% gradients and twisted track. It performed without issue. It has subsequently been seen running on my two hour weekly livestream, again with no issue. 

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6 minutes ago, Jenny Emily said:


In the review video I posted my six wheel coach was subjected to extensive running on curves, over pointwork and over 5% gradients and twisted track. It performed without issue. It has subsequently been seen running on my two hour weekly livestream, again with no issue. 

 

I think the key test is to have several running together.

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Anyone else have their pre-orders for these coaches cancelled by Hattons? Just had an email informing me they were “unable to secure the stock to allocate to your pre-orderl, hopefully they haven’t fallen out with Hornby as well as Bachmann!

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Straight out of the box, a gauging special to check platform clearances before fitting the step boards ...

 

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I ordered two BTs to make up a four coach set, but unfortunately due to an administrative error by my supplier I have only received one. Soon sorted after a 'phone call and the second one is now on its way. I'll probably get another third to make a BT-T-F-T-BT set.  Step boards fitted and Hunt magnetic close couplings fitted, one close and one ultra close to each vehicle as two ultra close couplings are just too close without sprung buffers ...

 

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The special was being shunted from the platform road to the sidings, to check running over the yard pointwork when the loco came to a sudden halt.  No amount of prompting would persuade it to move so a closer inspection was made upon which the problem became apparent ...

 

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Ooops.  Fortunately the crankpin was found lying nearby.

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7 minutes ago, SR Chris said:

I'll probably get another third to make a BT-T-F-T-BT set. 

 

That would be a highly authentic formation, although for a time about 60 years before the period depicted!

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14 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

 

 although for a time about 60 years before the period depicted!

 

I hereby invoke Rule 1!  I'll try not to run them alongside Bulleid 3-sets or Mark 1 stock.

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1 hour ago, SR Chris said:

 

 

 

Step boards fitted and Hunt magnetic close couplings fitted, one close and one ultra close to each vehicle as two ultra close couplings are just too close without sprung buffers ...

 

 

Would it be worth a try on the very close coupled having the buffers in the compressed position, as they are in a fixed rake, more or less?

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1 hour ago, Watto1990 said:

Anyone else have their pre-orders for these coaches cancelled by Hattons? Just had an email informing me they were “unable to secure the stock to allocate to your pre-orderl, hopefully they haven’t fallen out with Hornby as well as Bachmann!

Unfortunately just received the same email. Reordered with another retailer but hoping this isn't the same slippery slope of other Hornby items becoming sold out on pre order like the upcoming W1 with a lot of retailers :sad_mini:

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2 hours ago, Watto1990 said:

Anyone else have their pre-orders for these coaches cancelled by Hattons? Just had an email informing me they were “unable to secure the stock to allocate to your pre-orderl, hopefully they haven’t fallen out with Hornby as well as Bachmann!

 

Which livery was that? I've preordered some LSWR ones from Hattons, but theyre not due until next month.

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