robmcg Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Interesting seeing which retailers receive these very limited-supply models. However, harking back to days of Hornby Dublo proper, as in, metal 1950s stuff, I see that H-D never made their mind up over the paint finish on the many Duchess of Montrose models, gloss or satin or matt. It appears to me that the latest H-D models, Duchesses and now Merchant Navy models, are rather satin in finish, which led me to imagine what one might look like in a semi-gloss... perhaps a once-over with a semi-gloss spray? I don't personally think 00 models look quite right in the full gloss of current heritage steam locos, models usually being indoors vs the variable lighting of outdoors for prototypes, with all the reflections of sunlight and shade. So I messed around further with the Hornby pre-production photos of 35011 with a faux-gloss, which for me at least gives an idea of how the model could look. Edited with PSP6 as ever, but mostly only in tones, colours, brightness and so on. Will remove if it annoys. I think it looks marvelous, but I would say that, having bought one. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Very impressive! (Just some quick pics) 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Maybe the box should be a pinky red candy stripe colour, as its 2 rail. Or for the future even do a metrovick class 28 with original wrapround windows....oooo 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Another video of Elder Fyffes pulling a 22 coach train :- 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 The one going the other way was pulling 22 as well ..... !! How long before it 'warmed up' perhaps a tad too much? Al. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) On 25/08/2021 at 10:41, farren said: Well she’s arrived had it on the scales and it 1lb 5 or 606 grams for the kids on here. The name plate seems to be plastic which is a shame considering the price. Thanks for those pics Farren, has anyone had the time and opportunity to take any more photos of 46252 showing the green in neutral light? Given the excellence of the Crimson Lake livery on Atholl, courtesy Coachman, Larry Goddard if I'm not mistaken, I am a bit nervous about the rendition of BR green on Leicester, it's quite a bit of money to spend, after all. edit, ah, never mind your ppic on the Duchess thread shows the green rather well, and it looks the same to me as the plastic versions, top boiler seam notwithstanding. which is to say, not too bad. Edited August 31, 2021 by robmcg addition 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted August 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2021 Both pics from the other thread where near a window but if you would like I can take a couple tomorrow outside in the conservative to give you a better idea. The shade is very close but I think there’s a hint more of a ivy green to it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
22C Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 51 minutes ago, robmcg said: Thanks for those pics Farren, has anyone had the time and opportunity to take any more photos of 46252 showing the green in neutral light? Given the excellence of the Crimson Lake livery on Atholl, courtesy Coachman, Larry Goddard if I'm not mistaken, I am a bit nervous about the rendition of BR green on Leicester, it's quite a bit of money to spend, after all. edit, ah, never mind your ppic on the Duchess thread shows the green rather well, and it looks the same to me as the plastic versions, top boiler seam notwithstanding. which is to say, not too bad. Here is a photo of 46252 I took the other day with my iPhone, in natural light. The finish is more satin than the die cast Atholl to my eye, although it doesn’t seem to appear that way in the photo below. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Thankyou Farren and 22C I think the green colour is excellently shown in these pics, at least within the usual variations of lighting, cameras, phones and so on, thanks very much to both of you. I see that there are a few R3918 'Leicester' s still with a very few retailers, I had better make my mind up soon! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) No sooner did I write the above when a package arrived at the door, containing a beautiful Merchant Navy 35011. This afternoon a rare burst of direct sunlight illuminated the desk upon which it had been placed. I don't know if the photo is of any use, being direct sun from behind the camera, but it looks great from all angles. Runs smoothly and quietly. This is more usual room lighting... As often seems to be the case, looks better to the eye than the camera. Edited September 1, 2021 by robmcg addition 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted September 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2021 With regards City of Leicester, dont hold on too long Kernows only got 2 left, I note others have declining stock too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97xx Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Am I correct that these have 5-pole motor? Flywheel? To those who have got one, are these models of an acceptable mechanical quality? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, 97xx said: Am I correct that these have 5-pole motor? Flywheel? To those who have got one, are these models of an acceptable mechanical quality? Yes, it is indeed fitted with a five pole motor/ flywheel and is an excellent performer. These locos are some of the best running models produced to date by Hornby. The mechanicals are exactly the same as the recently released main range Merchant Navies. N.B Some recent locos did have a problem with poorly assembled/fitted driveshafts (Ellerman Lines mostly) which is a quick and easy fix. Hope this assists. Edited September 1, 2021 by Black 5 Bear Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) In the interests of science and adhering to all the principles of good photographic ethics , here is an un-fiddled photo of R3971 35011 'General Steam Navigation', showing the nature of the Brunswick Green livery and the way different angles affect it. I got a friend to point her phone at the model which is sitting in the same position as my previous photos, but obviously the lighting today is different, as well as the angle. No artificial light. Window light from one primary adjacent window, diffuse light from other windows. Cloudy bright day, but indoor light as one might normally enjoy ordinary activity like reading, or looking at a model train.. iPhone12 on camera default settings, hand-held. Photo cropped and sharpened slightly. I think the body detail is outstanding. Edited September 2, 2021 by robmcg addition 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Further to my scientific investigation into the vagaries of Hornby Bruswick Green, a topic which has stimulated slight interest hereabouts, here is the new die-cast MN 35011 alongside a known quantity, an old Sanda Kan 2005 BoB 34078 which I know looks darkish... Same iPhone12 and no editing, natural light. Direct afternoon sun and window frame shadow this time. Biggest difference is the lining colour, to my eye. Very slight difference in yellow could be the angle for all I know. Was lining orange and black or red and black? I must do some research! Here is how 34078 can be made to look. I hope to illustrate 35011 with similar depth of colour. Now, to buy a die-cast Duchess or not to buy.... Edit; needless to say, after taking the above pics, the light improved, so here is the comparison again. Did Light Pacifics ever have red and black lining? I thought orange and black was the norm, as per 35011. I'll shuffle off now.... Edited September 2, 2021 by robmcg additions 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97xx Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Black 5 Bear said: Yes, it is indeed fitted with a five pole motor/ flywheel and is an excellent performer. These locos are some of the best running models produced to date by Hornby. The mechanicals are exactly the same as the recently released main range Merchant Navies. N.B Some recent locos did have a problem with poorly assembled/fitted driveshafts (Ellerman Lines mostly) which is a quick and easy fix. Hope this assists. Very good news, thank you. My fear was that it might be a very expensive wrapper on a poorly made chassis - mechs seem to be terribly hit or miss although Hornby do appear to be ahead. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 A newly posted review of R 3970 Elders Fyffes Line :- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Impressive hauling and indeed performance by the motor. How hot was at least the body after that - and any 'hot smells'? Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, atom3624 said: Impressive hauling and indeed performance by the motor. How hot was at least the body after that - and any 'hot smells'? Al. No mention of that but it looks like a seamless performer. The mainstream M/N is excellent, but the fit and finish on these models take it to new level. Despite having both of my Pre-orders cancelled, I've managed to secure both locos at reasonable discounted prices. They're are still the most expensive locos I've purchased but I believe worth it when you consider some coaching stock is now £85+ RRP ! Edited September 3, 2021 by Black 5 Bear Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 A few more pics of 35011, so tempted by 35016 now. The look and feel of these models is a joy. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted September 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2021 12 hours ago, robmcg said: A few more pics of 35011, so tempted by 35016 now. The look and feel of these models is a joy. Lovely looking models. Frustratingly I'd say the lining on 34078 is a shade too red whilst 35011 is too tangerine! These are purely observations - I happily live with all sorts of perceived livery aberrations on the grounds I I can't afford Ian Rathbone and I couldn't do it better myself! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2021 Great to see all the pictures of 35011 General Steam Navigation. If you are not aware the original is in the process of actually being restored back into as built condition complete with air smooth casing and Bulleid's unique patented chain driven valve gear as how the model represents her. To find our more details about the project and perhaps to become a member (it's only £15 per year) and or support it in other ways see here https://www.35011gsn.co.uk/ 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97xx Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) I have to say that GSN appears to be a quite stunning model. The overall fit and finish appear flawless, and the satin on diecast, especially along the roof, is exceptional. Lining is reasonably good - fine-ness good but with a little bit of stutter evident on the orange lines. Running, admittedly straight out of the box, is quiet and smooth, with only a merest hint of wobble on the tender. A very significant flywheel inertia is evident. Detailing includes vacuum and steam pipes, cylinder cocks and front steps, although the instructions show a pair of steps for the buffer beam of the tender which are not in my pack. Anyone got them? Cab detail is rather well done. The only criticism being the driver's seat seems to be represented by a tab on the clear window glazing - just needs a touch of paint (only just visible in my pic below - that wasn't my intention to highlight it). Anyway, nit-picking. Edited September 3, 2021 by 97xx 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) A couple of stills from the video so kindly made by Deepa , showing 35016 'Elders Fyffe' in early BR Malachite... I think we are looking at a pretty high standard of metal casting here, I have bought one. Has Hornby ever done a Malachite SR or BR Merchant Navy before? Edited September 3, 2021 by robmcg addition 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, robmcg said: A couple of stills from the video so kindly made , showing 35016 'Elders Fyffe' in early BR Malachite... I think we are looking at a pretty high standard of metal casting here, I have bought one. Has Hornby ever done a Malachite SR or BR Merchant Navy before? Stunning ! Channel Packet and Royal Mail in SR malachite were both part of the initial offerings from Hornby back in 2017. Both are really sought after and IMO this will follow on for the newly released HD versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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