Jack P Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) Hi guys, As the title would suggest, i'm on the hunt for info on Parcels traffic on the Southern. I've found a few photos post-1948, but I want to try and understand if (apart from the liveries) there would be any major difference. What would a regular rake comprise of, how many wagons/vans etc. Any information around this subject is greatly appreciated. Links and book suggestions also. Thanks in advance! Edited December 22, 2020 by Jack P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jeremy Cumberland Posted December 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jack P said: I've found a few photos post-1498, If you happen to find any photos pre-1498, please drop me a line. They don't have to be of the Southern, or even of railways - photographs of anything would be of interest. If you can go back to 1485, I'd love to know what Richard III really looked like. [Sorry, I'm away from home right now and don't have access to my Southern books] 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jeremy C said: If you happen to find any photos pre-1498, please drop me a line. They don't have to be of the Southern, or even of railways - photographs of anything would be of interest. If you can go back to 1485, I'd love to know what Richard III really looked like. [Sorry, I'm away from home right now and don't have access to my Southern books] Oh for goodness sake. Haha, this is the cumulative effect of a late night and an early morning!! I'll keep you in mind if I come across any photos pre 1700's 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Assuming you're thinking of post war ( no, not Roses ) the vast majority of pre=-grouping Southern stuff will have disappeared leaving a huge fleet ( by Southern standards ) of Maunsell Parcels Vans and Covcars with a few corridor vans and 4w or bogie brakes in the same family. A handful of LSWR 56' brakes survived and the 'Specie' vans plus, of course assorted LSWR, SECR & SR Postal vans though you'd have to operate your layout in the dark to see the latter. I suppose you could include the 'Night Ferry' Fourgon as Parcels Traffic - though ONLY as part of that train ............ and just about any parcels vehicle could visit from one of the other three 'grouping' companies - in smallish numbers. Most of these would have been on regular workings - though the vehicle type might change ...... GWR 'Siphon J' milk vans 2521/2/3 were actually branded to work from Thorney & Kingsbury Halt ( wherever that might be ) to Gillingham ( Kent ) from April 1935 - the traffic may still have run after the war but without dedicated vehicles. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 The ubiquitous 4w U-vans (known by the staff as Cavells) were in fact a SE&CR design (and thus pre-grouping) even though the Southern eventually built most of them. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 15 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Assuming you're thinking of post war ( no, not Roses ) the vast majority of pre=-grouping Southern stuff will have disappeared leaving a huge fleet ( by Southern standards ) of Maunsell Parcels Vans and Covcars with a few corridor vans and 4w or bogie brakes in the same family. A handful of LSWR 56' brakes survived and the 'Specie' vans plus, of course assorted LSWR, SECR & SR Postal vans though you'd have to operate your layout in the dark to see the latter. I suppose you could include the 'Night Ferry' Fourgon as Parcels Traffic - though ONLY as part of that train ............ and just about any parcels vehicle could visit from one of the other three 'grouping' companies - in smallish numbers. Most of these would have been on regular workings - though the vehicle type might change ...... GWR 'Siphon J' milk vans 2521/2/3 were actually branded to work from Thorney & Kingsbury Halt ( wherever that might be ) to Gillingham ( Kent ) from April 1935 - the traffic may still have run after the war but without dedicated vehicles. Thorney and Kingsbury was near Langport, Somerset; I believe the traffic was cream for J Lyon's tearooms. Gould's book on SR non-Passenger stock has quite a bit on diagramming of stock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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