Roco 10772 accessory controller

[philg]

Anyone know if I can use the Roco accessory/route controller (10772) with either NCE or ZTC DCC systems? What interface cabling would I need??

 

it’s a pretty simple alternative to controlling DCC point motors - and a good first step. Ultimately I may be looking at NCEs MiniPanel, but that’s overkill for now

 

Thanks!

 

phil G

[WIMorrison]

The instructions for it are located here

 

https://www.roco.cc/doc/an/1/en/10772 XI_2003_200675.pdf

 

These will let you know what you need to run it, though I am sure that the answer is no it will not work with what you suggest.

[Nigelcliffe]

May work on ZTC as both are xpressnet (Lenz), but how in detail I don't know, and you're outside what's explicitly in the Roco manual Iain posted above. 
Doubt it can be made to work on NCE. 

 

Note that an NCE MiniPanel is 15 individual turnouts per unit (two connections required, one for each direction of throw).

[philg]

Thanks for the replies guys. I had something tickling the back of my mind about ZTC and ExpressNet - and sure I hooked a Roco Maus to my ZTC are some point when I was experimenting. But that is many years ago

 

I’ll keep digging

[WIMorrison]

I note that they talk about the Maus Bus and not Xpressnet however it does say that it can be connected to the Lenz LZ100 or LV100

[Suzie]

You will have trouble with the ZTC because of the ZTC accessory numbering not matching the standard Expressnet numbering, but other than that it should work. It will not work with NCE.

 

The routecontrol is best plugged in to a Lenz Expressnet panel or similar with a modular cable, and the expressnet panel can be wired to the ZTC.

[philg]

10 minutes ago, Suzie said:

You will have trouble with the ZTC because of the ZTC accessory numbering not matching the standard Expressnet numbering, but other than that it should work. It will not work with NCE.

 

The routecontrol is best plugged in to a Lenz Expressnet panel or similar with a modular cable, and the expressnet panel can be wired to the ZTC.

Yeah, that numbering mismatch is going to haunt me I think. BUT if I program the accessories from the Roco, and ONLY use that to switch points I think I'll be OK

 

But I also need to know the respective pinouts (Lenz/Roco and ZTC) to build a suitable cable......

[Nigelcliffe]

This page may help with the wiring  http://www.terdina.net/rails/xpressCable.htm

 

 

[Ron Ron Ron]

Think of the Roco 10772 Route Control as you would a DCC throttle, with the sort of limitations there are with regard to interchangeability (or not) between DCC brands.

 

For the OP, Phil G.

There’s a modern day alternative available in the shape of the DCC Concepts Alpha Central, which can be used with a number of DCC systems, or as a stand-alone DCC points and accessory controller.

 

 

 

 

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Edited December 24, 2020 by Ron Ron Ron

[philg]

1 hour ago, Ron Ron Ron said:

Think of the Roco 10772 Route Control as you would a DCC throttle, with the sort of limitations there are with regard to interchangeability (or not) between DCC brands.

 

For the OP, Phil G.

There’s a modern day alternative available in the shape of the DCC Concepts Alpha Central, which can be used with a number of DCC systems, or as a stand-alone DCC points and accessory controller.

 

 

 

 

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Thanks, but at the price it's beyond what I am prepared to spend right now. As I said, my future is likely to be a MiniPanel or similar

[philg]

On 24/12/2020 at 16:01, Suzie said:

You will have trouble with the ZTC because of the ZTC accessory numbering not matching the standard Expressnet numbering, but other than that it should work. It will not work with NCE.

 

The routecontrol is best plugged in to a Lenz Expressnet panel or similar with a modular cable, and the expressnet panel can be wired to the ZTC.

 If long back to this

 

Exactly how would I wire the expressnet panel to ZTC? I can wield a soldering iron, but what connects to what??

 

cheers

[Nigelcliffe]

See posting a few posts back with URL to wiring pin-outs.