RMweb Gold Popular Post Darius43 Posted January 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) Upgrade of a Lima PWA wagon using decal artwork kindly provided by James (jessy1692), etched trusses from jonhall and Stenson Models Fast Freight bogies. Before:- After:- Only seven more to do... Cheers Darius Edited February 24, 2023 by Darius43 21 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Darius43 said: Upgrade of a Lima PWA wagon using decal artwork kindly provided by James (jessy1692), etched trusses from jonhall and Stenson Models Fast Freight bogies. Before:- After:- Only seven more to do... Cheers Darius Looking good Darius! I don't think iv touched my last couple since mid December, need to get them mounted on the Stenson bogies. Have you just used nuts bolts and washers on yours? Cheers James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Hi James, I used M2 brass bolts and nuts to attach the bogies. 4mm thick plasticard supports (laminated from 1mm thick sheet) were cemented to the chassis. A 1mm thick plasticard “washer” was drilled smaller than 2mm dia. so that the bolt taps into it. The bolt is fixed from below and is secured with a brass “locknut” that is fixed in place with plasticard “keeps”. The brass bolt can be adjusted to allow sufficient play in the bogie. Cheers Darius Edited February 24, 2023 by Darius43 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I'm confused? The Stenson Bogies come with everything you need to mount them to the Lima wagons at the correct height. From memory, this involved melting a bolt into the Lima boss using MEK. Perhaps that's only the sprung bogies and not the rigid ones? Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, lyneux said: I'm confused? The Stenson Bogies come with everything you need to mount them to the Lima wagons at the correct height. From memory, this involved melting a bolt into the Lima boss using MEK. Perhaps that's only the sprung bogies and not the rigid ones? Guy I have the rigid bogies so presumably it’s the sprung bogies that have the mounting attachments. Cheers Darius 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Second wagon completed. Cheers Darius Edited February 24, 2023 by Darius43 8 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Darius43 said: Hi James, I used M2 brass bolts and nuts to attach the bogies. 4mm thick plasticard supports (laminated from 1mm thick sheet) were cemented to the chassis. A 1mm thick plasticard “washer” was drilled smaller than 2mm dia. so that the bolt taps into it. The bolt is fixed from below and is secured with a brass “locknut” that is fixed in place with plasticard “keeps”. The brass bolt can be adjusted to allow sufficient play in the bogie. Cheers Darius Brill, thanks for the info Darius, may be a little while till I get mine mounted with current restrictions. All the best James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Darius43 said: I have the rigid bogies so presumably it’s the sprung bogies that have the mounting attachments. Cheers Darius Same my end, didn't know the sprung ones had extra bits for mounting, may invest in some sprung ones to re bogie the previous ones iv done. Having said that I don't think ill need sprung ones, seems too fiddly for my bodging! Cheers James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2021 5 hours ago, lyneux said: I'm confused? The Stenson Bogies come with everything you need to mount them to the Lima wagons at the correct height. From memory, this involved melting a bolt into the Lima boss using MEK. Perhaps that's only the sprung bogies and not the rigid ones? Guy 5 hours ago, Darius43 said: I have the rigid bogies so presumably it’s the sprung bogies that have the mounting attachments. Cheers Darius 1 hour ago, jessy1692 said: Same my end, didn't know the sprung ones had extra bits for mounting, may invest in some sprung ones to re bogie the previous ones iv done. Having said that I don't think ill need sprung ones, seems too fiddly for my bodging! Cheers James All correct, the rigid are sort it out yourself, the sprung ones come with mounting bits and bobs. Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2021 28 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: All correct, the rigid are sort it out yourself, the sprung ones come with mounting bits and bobs. Mike. Either way they are very fine bogies. Cheers Darius 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Two more vans completed. Cheers Darius Edited February 24, 2023 by Darius43 13 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2021 Which wheels have you used Darius? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 9, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Mike, I obtained eight of these wagons from eBay, four of which had already been re-wheeled with 10.5mm dia. wheels. The remainder had the standard Lima pizza cutters, which I have binned and replaced with Lilliput 10.5mm dia. wheels that are available in bulk packs on eBay. Liliput wheels on the right. Cheers Darius Edited February 24, 2023 by Darius43 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 10, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) And another makes five... Weathering still to be done. Cheers Darius Edited February 24, 2023 by Darius43 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Two more Lima PWAs acquired. Nice livery - shame it’s totally fictitious. Cheers Darius Edited February 24, 2023 by Darius43 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Now we are six... Cheers Darius Edited February 24, 2023 by Darius43 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 I'm liking the gun barrels! Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: I'm liking the gun barrels! Mike. ....more like a run over Darlek 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, griffgriff said: ....more like a run over Darleks 4 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: I'm liking the gun barrels! Mike. I have fitted the wagons with Hunt Couplings - magnetic couplings from West Hill Wagon Works. They work quite well but do have an odd “steam-punkish” appearance at the end of a wagon. I have seen pictures of PWA trains with and without brake vans. Did these wagons need brake vans or were they air or vacuum braked? Cheers Darius Edited January 11, 2021 by Darius43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, Darius43 said: I have fitted the wagons with Hunt Couplings - magnetic couplings from West Hill Wagon Works. They work quite well but do have an odd “steam-punkish” appearance at the end of a wagon. I have seen pictures of PWA trains with and without brake vans. Did these wagons need brake vans or were they air or vacuum braked? Cheers Darius Nice rake you are making up there Darius, tidy job. Interesting couplings too, might try some out on some if my bits and bobs. As for the brakes, I'm pretty sure they were air braked, but I do wonder about the 1st batch if they had vac and were converted to air after rebuilding or maybe duel braked??. Havnt got much research materials to hand at the mo. Quick check on Bartlett shows air pipes on a BRT built one. Cheers James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 11, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Thanks James. Paul’s site does show air pipes. Thinking of fitting an LED tail light to the next wagon on the bench. Cheers Darius Edited January 11, 2021 by Darius43 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 How do you build them so quick? Doesn’t even seem long enough fo the paint to dry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2021 20 hours ago, Darius43 said: Two more Lima PWAs acquired. Nice livery - shame it’s totally fictitious. Cheers Darius This has always nagged me about the five I have! Perhaps one day I'll copy your efforts. I always thought the scale five foot gap between the buffers (due to the ENORMOUS couplings) looked worse than the fake livery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 12, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Talltim said: How do you build them so quick? Doesn’t even seem long enough fo the paint to dry I’ve got a bit of a production line going. Whilst the paint is drying on one I am modifying another. Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 12, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2021 56 minutes ago, Northmoor said: I always thought the scale five foot gap between the buffers (due to the ENORMOUS couplings) looked worse than the fake livery. Agreed. The Lima couplings are horrendous. Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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