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On 12/01/2021 at 10:11, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

I know it's all down to personal opinion, but?

 

Mike.


Indeed.

 

Personally I prefer this:-

 

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to this:-

 

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Neither is prototypical, but the former looks much better to me.
 

Cheers

 

Darius

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13 hours ago, Darius43 said:


I have fitted the wagons with Hunt Couplings - magnetic couplings from West Hill Wagon Works.  They work quite well but do have an odd “steam-punkish” appearance at the end of a wagon.

 

I have seen pictures of PWA trains with and without brake vans.  Did these wagons need brake vans or were they air or vacuum braked?
 

Cheers

 

Darius

 

 

The clue is in the TOPS code: the last letter specifically. If it's an "A" then air brakes, a "V" then vac brakes, "O" is unbraked and "W" is vac braked but fitted with a through air pipe.

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1 hour ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Couldn't the Daleks be a bit shorter or is that not a manufacturers option?

 

Mike.


They come in various types sizes and lengths so shorter ones are available.  The Stenson coupling adaptor that I have used fits a standard NEM pocket so I can change the couplings for shorter ones if required.  I have erred on the side of caution at the moment as the wagons will have to negotiate the helix on the shed layout with its vertical and horizontal curved transitions.  We can’t test this out until lockdown ends.
 

We have found that tension lock couplings can ride up over each other on the helix (leading to derailments) and that fixed couplings or Kadees  perform better. 

Cheers

 

Darius

 

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3 hours ago, 08221 said:

I fitted standard Bachmann couplings to mine, makes a lot of difference.

 

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Nice work.  Looks like you have shortened the buffers in length as well?

 

Darius

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2 hours ago, Bedlington North said:

 

The clue is in the TOPS code: the last letter specifically. If it's an "A" then air brakes, a "V" then vac brakes, "O" is unbraked and "W" is vac braked but fitted with a through air pipe.

One reason for the presence of a brake van is if there was a lengthy propelling move at the destination. Akeman St, between Aylesbury and Bletchley being one such.

 

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1 hour ago, Fat Controller said:

One reason for the presence of a brake van is if there was a lengthy propelling move at the destination. Akeman St, between Aylesbury and Bletchley being one such.

 

 

While true, I was only responding to the part of Darius's question about the wagons being air or vacuum braked.

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Primer on.  An overall coat of grey primer followed by white primer to the sides.

 

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The steel flat weight was superglued to the chassis moulding after the mating surfaces were first sanded down.  This avoids the weight coming lose when you reunite the chassis with the body, which from experience is a real pain.

 

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Darius

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26 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Did you solder brass angles on to the inside edges of Jon's etches?

 

Mike.


No - strictly speaking I should have but you can’t see that they are not there unless you look really closely.

 

I have some fine plastruct angle section that could be glued in place if need be, however it might interfere with the chassis fitting, which is a tight fit anyway.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

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Seventh wagon completed.  This will be for the end of the rake and I have fitted an LED tail lamp (by TrainTech) along with a screw link coupling and air hoses at one end (no Dalek coupling).

 

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This wagon previously sported the fictional Fisons finish.
 

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Darius

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On 11/01/2021 at 23:16, Darius43 said:


I have fitted the wagons with Hunt Couplings - magnetic couplings from West Hill Wagon Works.  They work quite well but do have an odd “steam-punkish” appearance at the end of a wagon.

 

I have seen pictures of PWA trains with and without brake vans.  Did these wagons need brake vans or were they air or vacuum braked?
 

Cheers

 

Darius

 

Hi Darius,

 

The clue is in the  three letter codes P= pre 1990 private owner, W=type and sequence of build, A=air braked.

 

https://www.ltsv.com/w_ref_codes_tops.php

 

Gibbo.

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6 hours ago, Darius43 said:

Seventh wagon completed.  This will be for the end of the rake and I have fitted an LED tail lamp (by TrainTech) along with a screw link coupling and air hoses at one end (no Dalek coupling).

 

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Cheers

 

Darius

 

Proper bufferbeam!!

 

Mike.

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Wagon body masked and airbrushed with brown enamel paint.  I used a mix of Phoenix bauxite, track colour and black, suitably thinned for airbrushing.

 

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Despite smoothing the masking tape (Tamiya) down over the door locking bars etc. there is still a bit of paint bleed.  The body will be given a couple of coats of Klear varnish and the paint bleeds “removed” with a small brush and some matt white enamel.

 

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Darius

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4 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

It would make me seasick modelling on that!

Do you superglue the folds/joins?

 

Mike.


Hi Mike,

 

Yes I do - not being very good at soldering - especially when white metal is involved.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

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25 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

I thought as much, but the lack of a glue bottle threw me.

Don't let a certain person find out!

 

Mike.


I left the glue bottle to one side as, if I don’t, I find it stuck to my sleeve...

 

I don’t think that person would allow my rolling stock in his layout.  Still, never mind eh.
 

Personally I think that these wagons look slightly too narrow but perhaps that’s just me.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

 

 

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