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[surfsup]

Hmm. Do you consider the Mk1 & Mk2 Barrier vans to be wagons? A Perfect fit to run with the ROG 37s & TPE Mk5s! 

[dogbox321]

Based on the success of the PFA - I'd actually like to see them do something "quirky" like a 2 axle chemical/gas tank, such as the Distillers MG or something.  Although whether there is enough variety and any other uses for the underframe etc., I do not know?

 

But it would certainly be different, but maybe not mainstream enough?

 

Best Wishes,

 

C.

 

 

[farren]

Wild stab in the dark either the 16 ton mineral wagon, plenty of range with body and frames with that. 
 

Or the blue spot fish van 

[Covkid]

9 hours ago, farren said:

ild stab in the dark either the 16 ton mineral wagon, plenty of range with body and frames with that. 
 

Or the blue spot fish van 

 

Both been done before, although a new production is certainly not a bad thing.

 

I like the sound of the Carbon Dioxide tanks even though there were variations in batches. Modern tank wagons from the 1960s onwards are relatively confined to a few common types, leaving commodities like chlorine, methanol and molasses uncovered for the modeller.  Thankfully Kernow are producing some of the specialist clay industry wagons.  

 

Personally, even though a complex design, I would love to see the 40 ton bogie chemical tanks reappear in the model catalogues.  For some reason this image pops into my mind https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrf2075.htm   covered in 

 The other distinct image in my head was published by Ned Williams in The Railway to Wombourn. A photo captioned "ex GWR 6422 at Oxley Jn on 26th April 1957. This was a Saturday morning train from Courtaulds siding back to Oxley collecting an empty caustic soda tanker from the factory".  The brakevan was a BR 20T example.

 

 

[spackz]

2 minutes ago, Covkid said:

Personally, even though a complex design, I would love to see the 40 ton bogie chemical tanks reappear in the model catalogues.  For some reason this image pops into my mind https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrf2075.htm   covered in 

 

 

 

Agreed on these. See my post on Thursday. 

[dibber25]

On 07/01/2021 at 01:16, jools1959 said:

I’ll throw my hat into the ring by suggesting it’s steam, it’s narrow gauge and it’s the Vale of Rheidol .  It could be modelled in Cambrian Railway, GWR, BR (both green and banger blue) and back again into the heritage liveries.

 

As it was the first part of BR to be sold off in 1989, could it have been painted later in Arriva Trains Wales and later into Transport for Wales?  

 

At this point I’ll by my leave and get the hell out of here 

 

 

VoR 2-6-2T has already been announced by Model Rail. Currently in CAD design. (CJL)

[Islesy]

11 hours ago, dogbox321 said:

I'd actually like to see them do something "quirky"

Mmm....

[The Stationmaster]

Am I the only person who finds it amusing that despite said item being (according to Accurascale Fran, and surely he knows if anybody does) a wagon which is not an HAA we are still getting suggestions that it is something other than a wagon?  And if that nice Mr Islesy wants something quirky I can lead him to a very interesting vehicle indeed which comes in two parts one of which has road wheels.   It would also be incredibly popular with certain sectors of the market because apart from me I know several other people who would each buy a number of said vehicles and one would be ideal on numerous layouts.

[TravisM]

1 hour ago, dibber25 said:

VoR 2-6-2T has already been announced by Model Rail. Currently in CAD design. (CJL)

Hi Chris, I know, I was just saying it in jest.

[richscylla]

On 07/01/2021 at 19:11, Global said:

They may match on quality but they’re certainly not as competitively priced.
 

I have 42 of the Cavalex on pre order at £89.95 per triple pack. If the Accurascale models are priced at a similar amount to some some of their other triple packs that’ll be around £69.95 or £74.95 - that’s quite a big saving for something that’ll be equal or better in quality.

 

With that saving I’d be likely to go for two full rakes of 36 hoppers. In fact I could probably get a couple of the gorgeous looking 37s too and still be equal or better off that the buying the equivalent number of Cavalex! 

This logic is pie in the sky though. No one knows if Accurascale are doing HAAs for sure. And certainly no-one knows the price. I'm not saying that they won't announce them or the price won't be the same as some of Accurascale's wagons but at the moment how can anyone say?

[dibber25]

1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said:

Am I the only person who finds it amusing that despite said item being (according to Accurascale Fran, and surely he knows if anybody does) a wagon which is not an HAA we are still getting suggestions that it is something other than a wagon?  And if that nice Mr Islesy wants something quirky I can lead him to a very interesting vehicle indeed which comes in two parts one of which has road wheels.   It would also be incredibly popular with certain sectors of the market because apart from me I know several other people who would each buy a number of said vehicles and one would be ideal on numerous layouts.

This one is an open goal and has been for years but, let's face it, it's a bit more challenging for manufacturers than, say, another coal wagon, although there is one (or bits of one) they could scan. It's just so much easier to do another more conventional wagon. Also, although this could command a fairly high price due to its complexity (unless an outfit that's equipped to do road vehicles made it) it isn't suitable to bung in a box of three for a block train that you can charge £100 for. However, there ARE pictures of trains with two or three in the formation, and they would be very saleable because you could run them in a main line setting or just one on a rural branch line. If you provide a suitable loading facility, they even offer a bit of play value. All good reasons for a mainstream manufacturer to pick up on them, yet none has....... (CJL)

[Flying Pig]

1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said:

Am I the only person who finds it amusing that despite said item being (according to Accurascale Fran, and surely he knows if anybody does) a wagon which is not an HAA we are still getting suggestions that it is something other than a wagon?  And if that nice Mr Islesy wants something quirky I can lead him to a very interesting vehicle indeed which comes in two parts one of which has road wheels.   It would also be incredibly popular with certain sectors of the market because apart from me I know several other people who would each buy a number of said vehicles and one would be ideal on numerous layouts.

 

Are we perhaps talking about something which would please Mr Strange (lovely!) and the Stout Conductor?

 

Also, if Accurascale don't want to invite speculation about non-wagon subjects, why do they head their loco page with an image like this?  I can only surmise that they are very naughty indeed.  Btw my understanding of the picture is that it is not one for Johnny Nice Painter but I could be wrong.

[KDG]

Didn't Safeway have a road railer in the 80's / 90's taking supermarket goods up to the Highlands.  Seem to remember someone modelling it in one of the magazines, probably Model Rail?

[The Stationmaster]

2 hours ago, Flying Pig said:

 

Are we perhaps talking about something which would please Mr Strange (lovely!) and the Stout Conductor?

Only if they are into the steam/early diesel era 

Also, if Accurascale don't want to invite speculation about non-wagon subjects, why do they head their loco page with an image like this?  I can only surmise that they are very naughty indeed.  Btw my understanding of the picture is that it is not one for Johnny Nice Painter but I could be wrong.

Could well be a lead for the future but is not what the newsletter referred to and it's been made clear in ths thread that the item is a wagon.

 

[Global]

3 hours ago, richscylla said:

This logic is pie in the sky though. No one knows if Accurascale are doing HAAs for sure. And certainly no-one knows the price. I'm not saying that they won't announce them or the price won't be the same as some of Accurascale's wagons but at the moment how can anyone say?

Which is why I was hoping that this was the announcement that they were, so I can make the decision on whether to cancel my pre orders or not based on what was announced! 
 

But going on the price info available on other wagons, I imagine should Accurascale announce HAAs they would get my business.

[Flying Pig]

28 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

Only if they are into the steam/early diesel era 

 

I'm not sure what trains they like - they're mainly into two different potable liquids - one light (lovely!),

 

 

one dark. 

 

 

34 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

Could well be a lead for the future but is not what the newsletter referred to and it's been made clear in ths thread that the item is a wagon.

 

Newsletter schmewsletter - I still say they're very naughty

[Railfreight1998]

6 hours ago, KDG said:

Didn't Safeway have a road railer in the 80's / 90's taking supermarket goods up to the Highlands.  Seem to remember someone modelling it in one of the magazines, probably Model Rail?

It was basically a 45ft container with a reefer unit at one end. They were carried on FIA euro-twin flats, as made by Bachmann. A good idea for a model though.

 

(Flickr link)

 

Personally, I'm hoping for some ICI caustic soda TTAs, as seen on numerous speedlink trains in the 80s. 

Edited January 9, 2021 by Railfreight1998

[Lambton58]

Oh dear

I've just read " ICI caustic soda TTAs" as " ICI custard soda TTAs"...  perhaps Accurascale might do some Banana vans?

 

[TomScrut]

8 hours ago, Flying Pig said:

Also, if Accurascale don't want to invite speculation about non-wagon subjects

 

I expect AS want us talking about them as much as possible so long as it's not negative!

 

I wonder how long they are going to make us wait?

[Covkid]

1 hour ago, Railfreight1998 said:

It was basically a 45ft container with a reefer unit at one end. They were carried on FIA euro-twin flats, as made by Bachmann. A good idea for a model though.

 

(Flickr link)

 

Personally, I'm hoping for some ICI caustic soda TTAs, as seen on numerous speedlink trains in the 80s. 

 

The wagons I was thinking of were the Trailer Train units with their rubber tyres. IIRC they use to pass on a Mossend-Wembley class 4 which detached them at Rugby.  I think this was in Transrail days before EWS took over. Again, I think there were 4 wagons and they were owned by an American company - Trailer Train may have been a brand.

 

I think the wagons had a centre spine and the specially constructed trailers were loaded onto the railway vehices wit hthe road wheels still attached. 

[Covkid]

Took a while to find it

 

 

[RP82]

2 hours ago, Covkid said:

 

The wagons I was thinking of were the Trailer Train units with their rubber tyres. IIRC they use to pass on a Mossend-Wembley class 4 which detached them at Rugby.  I think this was in Transrail days before EWS took over. Again, I think there were 4 wagons and they were owned by an American company - Trailer Train may have been a brand.

 

I think the wagons had a centre spine and the specially constructed trailers were loaded onto the railway vehices wit hthe road wheels still attached. 

A Euro spine with the Parcel Force trailers would be fantastic

[37403]

What about the salt wagons that ran out of Runcorn under ews, used to travel up the west coast to Roche at Dalry

[Hilux5972]

On 08/01/2021 at 06:03, Pre Grouping fan said:

Possible but dont Hornby have the 00 rights since they did a run a few years ago? And revolution doing the N gauge version now

I was only joking about the Drax wagons, given all the talk thats gone on lately with the amount being sold on eBay. Hornby did produce the model, but Drax commissioned them as customer models to give away, and they themselves own the tooling in OO Gauge. And they did say it was a one off run as well so unlikely. 

[KDG]

11 hours ago, Covkid said:

Took a while to find it

 

 

That's the one I was thinking of, thanks.