KR Models Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 We have a lot of emails following the Hornby range announcement and have decided to block announce what we intend to build over the next 12 months. These are just that 'intentions', not up for purchase yet. While all three projects are in various stages right now, we are NOT asking for any commitment yet. Nor are these 'crowdfunded' projects. Please do not read anymore into this announcement other than it is an announcement. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Defo interested in the Hunslet and the Torpedo wagon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR Models Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, JC said: Defo interested in the Hunslet and the Torpedo wagon The CAD work is almost complete on the Torpedo wagon, but the Hunslet is a bit further behind. A formal announcement will follow when we set up the EOI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ruston Posted January 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, KR Models said: Please do not read anymore into this announcement other than it is an announcement. Please do not read any more into my reply other than it is a reply. 1 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattA Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Very interested in Bellerophon. Beautiful engine and would be right at home on my preservation-era layout! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Bellaphorn is at my local heratige line and ill deffo be interested in one of those Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR Models Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, Ruston said: Please do not read any more into my reply other than it is a reply. That would depend on the content. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) These choices are very niche, even within the niche world of industrial locomotives and operations. Have you done any research prior to this announcement to determine market demand for a 12-axle Torpedo wagon? As it is at CAD stage I have to ask - one presumes that these are outside UK-loading gauge and will need design compromises to the bogies to negotiate typical set track curves and points? I have no agenda here , but these are questions which immediately spring to mind and I would want to hear much more on. Paul A. Edited January 11, 2021 by 1whitemoor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkea1 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Very interested in the big Hunslet, and possibly the torpedos. Which prototype is the torpedo based on - Scunthorpe to match up with the Hunslets? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, 1whitemoor said: These choices are very niche, even within the niche world of industrial locomotives and operations. Have you done any research prior to this announcement to determine market demand for a 12-axle Torpedo wagon? As it is at CAD stage I have to ask - one presumes that these are outside UK-loading gauge and will need design compromises to the bogies to negotiate typical set track curves and points? I have no agenda here , but these are questions which immediately spring to mind and I would want to hear much more on. Paul A. Trix have been making various large torpedo wagons on and off for years in Ho and N. I would imagine there is a market for an OO one. https://www.trix.de/de/suche/?q=Torpedopfannenwagen. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 The market is likely the same as the Hunslet - if you buy an industrial shunter you may want an industrial wagon for it to shunt - they are internal user wagons are they not? Question, does a Torpedo need an orange light inside to make it glow when full? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR Models Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 hours ago, 1whitemoor said: These choices are very niche, even within the niche world of industrial locomotives and operations. Have you done any research prior to this announcement to determine market demand for a 12-axle Torpedo wagon? As it is at CAD stage I have to ask - one presumes that these are outside UK-loading gauge and will need design compromises to the bogies to negotiate typical set track curves and points? I have no agenda here , but these are questions which immediately spring to mind and I would want to hear much more on. Paul A. These run today in the Scunthorpe steel works. They are scaled to OO gauge track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR Models Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: The market is likely the same as the Hunslet - if you buy an industrial shunter you may want an industrial wagon for it to shunt - they are internal user wagons are they not? Question, does a Torpedo need an orange light inside to make it glow when full? Yes, this is part of the DCC operation of the model. 1 hour ago, clarkea1 said: Very interested in the big Hunslet, and possibly the torpedos. Which prototype is the torpedo based on - Scunthorpe to match up with the Hunslets? Yes correct. We have been working very closely for months with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR Models Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, maico said: Trix have been making various large torpedo wagons on and off for years in Ho and N. I would imagine there is a market for an OO one. https://www.trix.de/de/suche/?q=Torpedopfannenwagen. Yes ours is based on the UK Scunthorpe steel works version, and is designed for OO gauge modelling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 11, 2021 Moderators Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, KR Models said: They are scaled to OO gauge track And that's underscale. So are they 4mm/foot or 3.5mm/foot? Such things are the points I was trying to make in this afternoon's email. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I got a little bit excited when I saw the torpedo wagon but then realised that it's not the version that was used to take molten steel to Consett which was even larger than the one you are looking at doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KR Models Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, AY Mod said: And that's underscale. So are they 4mm/foot or 3.5mm/foot? Such things are the points I was trying to make in this afternoon's email. 4mm to the foot 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, woodenhead said: The market is likely the same as the Hunslet - if you buy an industrial shunter you may want an industrial wagon for it to shunt - they are internal user wagons are they not? Question, does a Torpedo need an orange light inside to make it glow when full? Some torpedo wagons made relatively shortish (63 mile) journeys over BR lines - from Cargo Fleet to Consett for a few years. There was also another variant at Redcar - again rnning internally - and they were much bigger with a far greater overall height than any of the other types. The ones which ran to Consett were very different in appearance from the KR model which is based on the internal user wagons at Scunthorpe. Lima did one in the past and it wasn't too bad although whether it was based ona UK one or other European version I'm not entirely sure (and it was probably undersize). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkea1 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 40 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: Some torpedo wagons made relatively shortish (63 mile) journeys over BR lines - from Cargo Fleet to Consett for a few years. There was also another variant at Redcar - again rnning internally - and they were much bigger with a far greater overall height than any of the other types. The ones which ran to Consett were very different in appearance from the KR model which is based on the internal user wagons at Scunthorpe. Lima did one in the past and it wasn't too bad although whether it was based ona UK one or other European version I'm not entirely sure (and it was probably undersize). There's some intersting info on these workings here: http://www.traintesting.com/torpedo_wagon_tests.htm 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteskitchen Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 It will be very interesting to see how the Stevenson Eccentric valvegear works on Bellerophon. Has this ever been done before in model form before, maybe a foreign outline model? and if so how successfully does it work? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Bellerophon is of considerable interst to me - will await the opening of the order book 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, peteskitchen said: It will be very interesting to see how the Stevenson Eccentric valvegear works on Bellerophon. Has this ever been done before in model form before, maybe a foreign outline model? and if so how successfully does it work? It's actually Gooch valvegear (also smetimes called Gooch Stephenson because it is very similar to Stephenson gear and looks much the same at a glance) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 hours ago, clarkea1 said: Very interested in the big Hunslet, and possibly the torpedos. Which prototype is the torpedo based on - Scunthorpe to match up with the Hunslets? That makes both my Lima torpedoes and A1 bogie Hunslet sort of redundant! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Definitely gonna knab Bellerophon when I can. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 hours ago, KR Models said: These run today in the Scunthorpe steel works. They are scaled to OO gauge track. My question was about "loading gauge" - a pretty critical consideration for layouts with platforms, bridges, tunnels etc. They are significantly wider and taller than a Mk1, are they not? Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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