Philou Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I should have seen these whilst waiting for my train at Cardiff Central - simply don't remember them . At least they are different and certainly not 'run-of-the-mill'. As an addition to the VAT query, as I too am implicated by virtue of future purchases, is there any way that Accurascale can make use of their Irish address for posting out as it would then be EU-EU? Seemingly would save hassle. Cheers, Philip 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 11 hours ago, 66738 said: Going to be totally honest. Ashamed to say I have never come across this type of wagon before (And I thought I had a pretty good knowledge on rolling stock). 10 hours ago, TomScrut said: Whilst I can honestly say "nothing in it for me" as it is out of era, that is a cool looking wagon I didn't know existed and I expect it will do well because it's quirky and I expect given a lot of the other reactions, people won't know they have wanted it until they saw it because they didn't know it existed! Ditto, a wagon I've never seen before despite them running whilst I was trainspotting all over the country. Never too old to learn new things eh 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2021 Very nice ...... ! Pack B for us..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2021 47 minutes ago, jjnewitt said: Interesting choice of prototype. Looking at those prototype photos it's very noticable that no two hoods are the same. Can the model be done with each side different perhaps so that they don't all look identical? A rake would look fairly unrealistically if they were all exactly the same. Looking at the EP the bend in the hood at the side doesn't match where the impression of the tarp bar is which looks really odd to me. Justin Justin, the canopy is in the process of being remodelled now that we have the basic shape ‘right’ and will look more prototypical (such that that can be) with EP2. There will be differences on either side, both in shape and decoration, that will enable a less uniform rake in appearance... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Philou said: As an addition to the VAT query, as I too am implicated by virtue of future purchases, is there any way that Accurascale can make use of their Irish address for posting out as it would then be EU-EU? Seemingly would save hassle. We could pay in Euros too. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2021 52 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: We could pay in Euros too. Mike. We have investigated this though as Accurascale and Irish Railway models are two different companies it’s not as straightforward as it might seem. Altho accurascale EU exports are a very small % at the moment to warrant a lot of new systems. We will keep you posted as things settle down. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calnefoxile Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 @Accurascale Fran They are very nice and I'd be in for a pack or 2, however they're the wrong scale Might be worth a chat with that bunch of charlatans those wonderful chaps at RevolutioN @red death @Ben A Regards Neal. 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Lambton58 Posted January 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 12/01/2021 at 10:59, Accurascale Fran said: So, how many of you guessed correctly? None!?! Well I wasn't far off when I suggested it might be "an open or closed wagon of some sort and will have 4 or more wheels" ! ;-) It's an interesting and good choice of wagon and would look good behind a Deltic - KOYLI perhaps??? I'll get me coat Ralph 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 SFW ( Coil A ) coil wagon pool from approx late 1980's BSC Llanwern - Various Coil Pool 4195 Design Code SF002B B 949133 , 134 , 135 , 138 , 140 , 141 , 142 , 143 , 144 , 145 , 146 , 150 , 152 , 154 . B 949155 , 156 , 160 , 163 , 164 , 165 , 166 , 168 , 171 , 173 , 174 , 175 , 176 , 178 . Total 28 These are the new Accurascale coil A wagons that were through air brake fitted in the late 1980's , worked with SGW ( coil B ) wagons from BSC Llanwern to Newport docks and BSC Orb ( most likely for the export jetty , as BSC Orb dealt with electrical steels supplied from BSC Ravenscraig on cradles BAA bogie wagons ) 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) Here is the SGW ( ex coil B ) pool from the late 1980's to go with the already posted SFW ( ex Coil A ) pool BSC Llanwern - Various Coil Pool 4196 Design Code SG002B B 949181 , 183 , 184 , 185 , 188 , 192 , 193 , 194 , 195 , 196 , 197 , 198 , 199 . B 949200 , 202 , 203 , 204 , 205 , 206 , 208 , 209 , 211 , 215 , 217 , 219. Total 25 These worked with the SFW ( ex coil A ) to the likes of Newport docks and BSC Orb Edited January 13, 2021 by bazjones1711 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 They worked into Newport docks hauled by the 08 from Alexander Junction or Ebbw Junction - went there several times but didn't know its proper name! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfreight1998 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, hmrspaul said: They worked into Newport docks hauled by the 08 from Alexander Junction or Ebbw Junction - went there several times but didn't know its proper name! Newport Alexandra Dock Junction Yard is the full name I think; not easy to say. Hopefully these may make an appearance on Redfield, although presumably they were for finished steel only, given the hoods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2021 16 hours ago, hmrspaul said: They worked into Newport docks hauled by the 08 from Alexander Junction or Ebbw Junction - went there several times but didn't know its proper name! Alexandra Dock Junction (known to locals and South Waleian railwaymen as AD Jcn) is the yard on the Down side of the GWML and has been an EWS yard in more recent times. It is opposite the site of Ebbw Junction diesel depot (which in turn was on part of the site of Ebbw Jcn steam shed). It is slightly to the west of Ebbw Jcn which is the western GWML end of the triangular junction to the Western Valleys line leading to Ebbw Vale. Just to add a bit more confusion the Area Manager Newport Maesglas (abolished 1974) had his offices in an extended building at Ebbw Jcn diesel depot although Maesglas is on the opposite side of the GWML beyond AD Jcn yard. AD Jcn is the main survivor of the once numerous yards that lay south of the GWML in that vicinity on that side of Newport. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Class 47238 on a train of SFW and SGW wagons at Severn Tunnel Junction in the late 1980's , possibly a BSC Llanwern / Port Talbot to Swindon coil working . Copy of a M Russell photo. Edited January 14, 2021 by bazjones1711 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, bazjones1711 said: Class 47238 on a train of SFW and SGW wagons at Severn Tunnel Junction in the late 1980's , possibly a BSC Llanwern / Port Talbot to Swindon coil working . Copy of a M Russell photo. The avatar I use is me measuring the Coil B in STJ. Half a lifetime ago! It was a great yard to visit, although the WR were not good with permits - I think I applied three times and we got in when I asked to measure the ODAs which were stored there between jobs - and went off TOPS because of security precautions. One of the interesting shunts was going across the GWML from the Up to Down yard or reverse. We could, of course, have done a Coil B anytime in Newport Docks. Paul Edited January 14, 2021 by hmrspaul 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, bazjones1711 said: SFW ( Coil A ) coil wagon pool from approx late 1980's BSC Llanwern - Various Coil Pool 4195 Design Code SF002B B 949133 , 134 , 135 , 138 , 140 , 141 , 142 , 143 , 144 , 145 , 146 , 150 , 152 , 154 . B 949155 , 156 , 160 , 163 , 164 , 165 , 166 , 168 , 171 , 173 , 174 , 175 , 176 , 178 . Total 28 These are the new Accurascale coil A wagons that were through air brake fitted in the late 1980's , worked with SGW ( coil B ) wagons from BSC Llanwern to Newport docks and BSC Orb ( most likely for the export jetty , as BSC Orb dealt with electrical steels supplied from BSC Ravenscraig on cradles BAA bogie wagons ) Captured a couple of this pool on film towards the end of their days in Margam Hump yard in September 1992, as seen below. and also. https://flic.kr/p/2dn9uH1 Paul J. Edited January 14, 2021 by Swindon 123 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjones1711 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 In an old Leicester Railway Wagon Society magazine regarding SFW and SGW coil wagons Recoded week ending 20th June 1987. SFV to SFW SF002B B 949175 / 176 / 178 SGV to SGW SG001B B 949199 / 200 / 203 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted March 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2021 Coil A Decorated Samples Spring Into View! More progress on yet another Accurascale project. This time it is a look at decorated samples of the most interesting wagon you hadn't heard of; the BR Coil A hooded steel coil carrying wagons! We are pretty happy with the decoration and finish of these distinctive wagons, but have a few areas to resolve around the hood in particular. However, it is shaping up nicely and still on course for Q3 2021 delivery. Read the full story here: https://accurascale.co.uk/blogs/news/the-most-interesting-wagon-you-never-heard-of-decorated-coil-a-arrives Cheers, Fran 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: but have a few areas to resolve around the hood I did wonder where BR got their mahoosive irons from!! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 It will be interesting how the hoods come out, trying to capture the random creases of a thin flexible material in relatively thick solid plastic cannot be easy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) Accurascale may have been influenced by some of my photos. This is the list with reference to my photos but this does not mean that the artwork, or detail of the wagons, will appear as in these photos. Pack A B949133 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/efc7485d 1982 B949144 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e1ae0ecc9 & https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e13465b2d 1982 B949146 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e106159cf 1982 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e281e897 1984 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/ed5869e8 1985 Pack B B949148 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e6bcd173 1982 B949173 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e1bc2d0f 1982 B949176 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e119d8743 1982 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e1f44b449 1984 Pack C B949152 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e1d129531 & https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e679be56 1980 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e15957b63 1982 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/eee380dd 1984 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e1e3294a2 1986 B949163 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e1cb49611 1984 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e94aab2d 1985 B949140 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcoila/e1f40fb97 1984 Paul Edited March 4, 2021 by hmrspaul 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Plenty of good quality colour footage of them between Wrexham and Shotton hauled by panniers, 0-6-2 tanks and standards on this DVD. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted March 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2021 6 hours ago, The Ghost of IKB said: It will be interesting how the hoods come out, trying to capture the random creases of a thin flexible material in relatively thick solid plastic cannot be easy. I agree but the tops and the ends are showing promise, the sides are not as good. But Farn as mentioned the hoods are still to be resolved. Saying that the wagons do look the dogs. Look forward to getting my paws on a set. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2021 On 04/03/2021 at 17:39, The Ghost of IKB said: It will be interesting how the hoods come out, trying to capture the random creases of a thin flexible material in relatively thick solid plastic cannot be easy. Agreed - the hoods still look too uniform, neat and smooth and, for me, this spoils the overall look of the wagon. Using real cloth, like Bachmann’s China clay wagons, would not (for me) be a solution as they have a “sewn by my Mum” look to them. Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2021 I think we're going to have to eat some Tunny bars! Mike. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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