Rail-Online Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Hi, I am just finishing off my 4 wheel Chivers kit and I have fitted the vacuum pipes but did they have through steam heating pipes as well? If so were they hanging down below the bufferbeam or upright like the Vac pipes? Cheers Tony Edited January 15, 2021 by Rail-Online Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 The drawing in Peter Tatlow's Historic Carriage Drawings Vol 3 NPCS shows 3 pipes on the end - vacuum and Westinghouse vertically and steam heat hanging down. The internal drawing of a D120 I have shows a guard's "heater" which suggests that they weren't just through piped. Hope this helps. Cheers, Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Tooley Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 This is a BR-era photo, but the same arrangement is shown on the LNER official portrait of 6820 in Harris (1998). (Dennis Seabrook Collection/LNER Society) D 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Great, thanks guys, Westinghouse as well - I had disregarded this as I thought it was discontinued in all areas except the GER Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall5 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 You'd need to check numbers as only some were Westinghouse fitted IIRC. Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2021 The internal heater (I went a bit bonkers on my Chivers kit and gave it full interior fittings despite their being borderline impossible to see) was on the guard’s seat side of the draught screen to the right of the seat and at the end of the screen. It was probably a radiator type of device but the plan shows it in a cabinet; on my van it’s a matt black painted slab glued to the screen. You can just make it out through the opposite, non ducket side, guard’s door window droplight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Steve Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Rail-Online said: Great, thanks guys, Westinghouse as well - I had disregarded this as I thought it was discontinued in all areas except the GER Cheers Tony Sorry for hijacking the thread but mention of the Westinghouse air brake prompts me to ask would it have been isolated in late BR days? Images of the preserved example seem to show that the Westinghouse cylinder is left in situ and is isolated from the braking system by the simple expedient of removing the link between it and the shaft to which is also attached the vacuum brake cylinder linkage. Would this have been a similar situation in BR days? Certainly some images such as the one shown earlier in the thread show Westinghouse cylinders still in place so would both air and vacuum brake systems be operative at this late stage of their lives or would they have been vacuum brake only with the link removed in a similar fashion to above? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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