JRChad Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I’ve been stripping and rebuilding a very heavily soldered 0 gauge Jinty model for some time now and thought I might try to add a little more detail to the boiler by making it removable as per the prototype. Looking at a reproduction of drawing 29-11277 in LMS Profiles 14 it appears that the boiler support brackets on the sides of the fire box are marginally wider than the space between the water tanks. This implies that the tanks were removable presumably from within the external casing that extends down the side of the drivers cab. Unfortunately I can’t quite see if this is true from the drawings I have. It seems logical for the tanks to be removable for maintenance but can anyone confirm that this is the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Every part of a steam locomotive was removable, it was just a matter of how awkward the nuts and bolts were to get at, and how seized they were (hence the use of a gas axe at the works stripping pits). I don't know what was entailed in removing the tanks from this class, but they were definitely could come off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 By 'Jinty' I guess you're referring to a Fowler 3F tank a.k.a. 'Maggie', 'Jocko' etc. ........... this might help show how things fitted together : - 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2021 You only have to look inside a loco workshop to see how the components were taken apart for repairs and maintenance. Highbridge only built one little shunter. All these locos have been stripped down for maintenance. Most seem to have had their boilers removed for attention in the boiler shop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, JRChad said: I’ve been stripping and rebuilding a very heavily soldered 0 gauge Jinty model for some time now and thought I might try to add a little more detail to the boiler by making it removable as per the prototype. Looking at a reproduction of drawing 29-11277 in LMS Profiles 14 it appears that the boiler support brackets on the sides of the fire box are marginally wider than the space between the water tanks. This implies that the tanks were removable presumably from within the external casing that extends down the side of the drivers cab. Unfortunately I can’t quite see if this is true from the drawings I have. It seems logical for the tanks to be removable for maintenance but can anyone confirm that this is the case. There's a splendidly detailed photie of a stripped down 474356 at St. Rollox in British Railways Illustrated Vol.18 No.1 [October 2008] Don't know about brackets, but the sort of detail "revealed" by removing the tanks includes the settling pipe, under the boiler level with the dome, the reversing lever [on the right side] and what I take to be a sandbox lever One other essential detail if the tank is coming off is a Do Not Move sign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Ah - but it WAS being moved ! ( in bits ) ........... inside view of the RH tank and LH running plate top : - Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2021 GW tanks on tank locos, and probably other railways' as well, have lifting rings to enable them to be removed by the overhead cranes in workshops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: That reminds me that I must finish my Connoisseur one. Love the Birkenhead North sign. That wasn't found in it by any chance? Quite a few locomotives had bits slung in the bunker, firebox or tanks. I think it was to make up the weight for the scrapyard when parts had been taken by BR for reuse. And it was withdrawn from there. Jason Edited January 18, 2021 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) I can't remember where that sign came from - and don't know where it went to either - it certainly didn't spend ten years or so in Barry scrapyard ( someone would have 'liberated' it ). Edited January 18, 2021 by Wickham Green too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 Where is that? Midland goods shed contemporary with the S&C ones - 1870s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I'm not sure about the date of the shed but the railway to Bath opened in 1869 - so perhaps just a wee bit earlier than the '70s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 The stone goods shed is at Bitton on the Bath Mangotsfield line, now the Avon Valley Railway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: I'm not sure about the date of the shed but the railway to Bath opened in 1869 - so perhaps just a wee bit earlier than the '70s. Thanks. Bitton station building is virtually a dead ringer for the S&C stations, the design being more-or-less standard issue from the company architect's office under J.H. Sandars - Baildon, opened 1876, being another example that springs to mind. So it's not surprising that the goods shed too should be very similar to the S&C ones, though differing in ornamentation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRChad Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Hi. re the Connoisseur Model kit. That's the one I'm rebuilding. Looking at your pictures there appears to be an error in the kit illustrations. The exploded diagram with the kit shows the skirt below the footplate with the large lug at the front of the chassis, which is what I've just done. In your pictures and in all of Jim's other illustrations the larger lug is at the back!! ah well third time lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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