KeithMacdonald Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 The sidings at Teignmouth and Dawlish stations were removed a few decades ago. Did anyone ever see them in use, or has anyone ever found any pictures of them being used? What kind of wagons? Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) Sidings at Dawlish station on the sea front? Don't remember them. Do you mean Dawlish Warren station, where they had the camping coaches? Edited January 22, 2021 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Maybe this link would be of some help ? https://maps.nls.uk/view/106005188 G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, bgman said: Maybe this link would be of some help ? https://maps.nls.uk/view/106005188 G I did find some 12T vans inside the goods shed at Teignmouth once. The only problem was all the track outside had been lifted! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bgman said: Maybe this link would be of some help ? https://maps.nls.uk/view/106005188 G Agree - Dawlish had a goods yard and a goods shed. the station closed to goods, including - unusually - Coal Class traffic on 17 May 1965 and the yard sidings were taken out of use on 22 August that year. The yard area was converted into a car park in 1968 or thereabouts. Teignmouth, which of course also had a goods shed and yard., was closed to goods in June 1965 but the yard on the Up side remained open for Coal Class traffic until December 1967. Teignmouth Old Town Quay ceased to be rail connected from 5 December 1967 brining to an end its involvement in coal traffic for Newton Abbot power station and china clay for shipment. Edited January 22, 2021 by The Stationmaster Typos 1 1 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, bgman said: Maybe this link would be of some help ? https://maps.nls.uk/view/106005188 G Sadly not, we already knew there were sidings pre 1960's. Trying to find pictures of them in use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I’ve seen a photo of Dawlish Warren with one van sitting in it. The rest of the goods yard was of course full of camping coaches. I’m not sure whether the van was related to goods traffic or just a storage place for the camping coaches. sorry that doesn’t help much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 @Chris M Thanks, Dawlish Warren is well-pictured with camping coaches. It's Dawlish and Teignmouth station sidings I'm after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mike_Walker said: I did find some 12T vans inside the goods shed at Teignmouth once. The only problem was all the track outside had been lifted! Thanks Mike. Don't suppose you remember what kind of vans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseRambler Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Found this on Flickr; dated from the 1950s which says it is Dawlish. Photo by Stephen Horsfall 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) Dad's albums have two or three photos of goods trains passing through Dawlish, in the late '50s & 60s, but none showing any of the sidings. You can see them in this album on my photosharing pages. http://www.ipernity.com/search/photo?opt=&q=Dawlish&w=364457&t=0&lic=&s=0 All at an oblique angle but you might be able to see something of interest. Edited January 22, 2021 by phil_sutters Additional info 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: @Chris M Thanks, Dawlish Warren is well-pictured with camping coaches. It's Dawlish and Teignmouth station sidings I'm after. The best source I know of is Peter Kay's excellent tome ' Exeter - Newton Abbot A Railway History'. It contains 4 good pictures of traffic in Dawlish goods yard; three of the two yards at Teignmouth station; and seven views which include various wagons at Teignmouth Old Quay. If you are interested in this stretch of railway it is without a doubt the definitive book on the subject, scholarly, well written, and well illustrated. https://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/exeter-newton-abbot-a-railway-history/ 3 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Thanks Mike. Don't suppose you remember what kind of vans? Sorry, no. It was the best part of half a century ago . As far as I can remember they were just ordinary vans. It was the fact they were marooned that caught my attention. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 I've found another stray image on Flickr, with a green Warship, dated "Dec 1966". Not sure what that coach or wagon is in the siding. Is that a set of steps on the right of it? If it was at Dawlish Warren most of us would assume it was a camping coach, but not sure that could be correct in this location. Any ideas? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, KeithMacdonald said: I've found another stray image on Flickr, with a green Warship, dated "Dec 1966". Not sure what that coach or wagon is in the siding. Is that a set of steps on the right of it? If it was at Dawlish Warren most of us would assume it was a camping coach, but not sure that could be correct in this location. Any ideas? Probably some form of Engineer's mess coach. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 There is a 1959 photo of Dawlish in the Bradford Barton book 'More Great Western Steam' in Devon with 92203 passing. There are one or two vanfits in the distance in the siding behind the up platform, a 5 plank open stood by the dock, and possibly a 16t coal wagon or two on the blocks of that siding, cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, Mike_Walker said: Probably some form of Engineer's mess coach. Or a defective vehicle detached from a train on the main line. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Past and Present No.8 Devon by David Mitchell page 95 has a photo dated 24 April 1965, not long before the yard closed. D6330 stands at the head of an engineers train including sided sturgeons loaded with spoil in behind the platform. There is a van and a couple of other open wagons on the blocks near the yard gate. Interestingly there is a coach in the short right hand siding, though not the one seen above as the roof vents are on the other side. cheers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebem Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I researched into this once, as above Im sure ive seen a picture or postcard of mainly engineers/ballast wagons in early 60s but i cant find it. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 The more GW books you have the more you see this kind of pictures. Brian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just as a matter of curiosity does the line from the double slip ( to the bottom right of the above photographs ) lead to a stop block ? It appears to end just beneath the over bridge on the 1934 OS map. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Rivercider said: Past and Present No.8 Devon by David Mitchell page 95 has a photo dated 24 April 1965, not long before the yard closed. D6330 stands at the head of an engineers train including sided sturgeons loaded with spoil in behind the platform. There is a van and a couple of other open wagons on the blocks near the yard gate. Interestingly there is a coach in the short right hand siding, though not the one seen above as the roof vents are on the other side. cheers I was going to mention this photo as it also appears in Modern Locomotives Illustrated No 197 on the NBL Type 2s - I hadn't even realised there were once sidings here until I saw that. However the combination of headcode boxes, yellow panel shape, OHLE flash positions and lack of 'eyebrow' vents identify the loco as D6326, which features again a few pages further on at Paddington on ECS duties exactly one week later. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D826 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) My Dad, whose Aunt ran a guest house in Dawlish, pre and post WW2 - he first went there circa 1932 - she ran it till the late 50s, told me the "Dawlish and Teignmouth Cliff Gang" used to use accommodation in stock stored in the siding. Couldn't be associated with that could it ? They also stored gear in the structures, ('buildings' doesn't seem the right word), built into the cliff face just beyond the coastguards footbridge heading toward the Langstone Rock. I always wonder when the small pedestrian footbridge was removed which used to provide access to the sea wall from Sea Lawn Terrace. The stumps of it were visible on the up side. I guess it was in the 50s but have not conducted a proper study ! Best regards Matt W Edited January 23, 2021 by D826 Station footbridge at other end if station ! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2021 11 hours ago, bgman said: Just as a matter of curiosity does the line from the double slip ( to the bottom right of the above photographs ) lead to a stop block ? It appears to end just beneath the over bridge on the 1934 OS map. G Yes. All the older maps show it terminating at the overbridge so it was just a relatively short spur although there was a ground disc reading back out of it 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just found on Rail Online. Beside a Castle on a 1950s Dawlish Up express, a better view of the three sidings, including the little stub loading bay and a small crane. https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p839482915/h11d13a51#h11d13a51 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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