RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Reports of landslip at Kidderminster this afternoon. It appears to be on the Down side at Offmore Road bridge about 400 yards north of the station. The site is next to the Railway Train pub. From the pictures in the local paper I wonder if there has been some encroachment there? https://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/news/19047162.train-lines-blocked-landslip-kidderminster/ Edited January 28, 2021 by TheSignalEngineer typo 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 28, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Checking back on some of the old maps there has been a wall built into the bank at the back of the pub in line with the bridge abutment for at least 130 years. Someone in NR is probably searching for the records of it and its maintenance tonight. Edited January 28, 2021 by TheSignalEngineer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted January 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) Regardless of ownership that retaining wall should have had regular inspections (not saying it didn't). Interesting that the fire brigade roped the car to the brick wall. I can't see that holding it so not sure why they did that. Edited January 28, 2021 by Bucoops 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 28, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Bucoops said: Interesting that the fire brigade roped the car to the brick wall. I can't see that holding it so not sure why they did that. Maybe the only thing they could try to fix it to while the recovery crew got either a crane or winch rope attached. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 The Railway Train? Is that up there along with train station? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken.W Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 4 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Checking back on some of the old maps there has been a wall built into the bank at the back of the pub in line with the bridge abutment for at least 130 years. Someone in NR is probably searching for the records of it and its maintenance tonight. Well, judging from the overgrowth on the remainder of that wall (2nd photo in op link) I fail to see how it could have had any maintenance 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 4 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Maybe the only thing they could try to fix it to while the recovery crew got either a crane or winch rope attached. Possibly, but unless there’s a whopping great steel pile down the centre of that brick pier it will be following the car into the cutting... Darius 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 Pure speculation on my part, but that asphalt the car is parked on looks quite new. If it is a recent parking area created for the car, perhaps a combination of the surcharge load of the parked car and the damp conditions led to the slip... Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Darius43 said: Pure speculation on my part, but that asphalt the car is parked on looks quite new. If it is a recent parking area created for the car, perhaps a combination of the surcharge load of the parked car and the damp conditions led to the slip... Darius If the asphalt is new as you suggest it will quite possibly have been laid using things like a vibrating roller. Likely also having been dug out and backfilled with hardcore first, again being compacted with vibrating tools....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, great central said: If the asphalt is new as you suggest it will quite possibly have been laid using things like a vibrating roller. Likely also having been dug out and backfilled with hardcore first, again being compacted with vibrating tools....... For a small driveway area it may have been laid with smaller tools, but, as I said, this is pure speculation. Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 29, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Boris said: The Railway Train? Is that up there along with train station? About 1/4 mile away 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Boris said: The Railway Train? Is that up there along with train station? And as the story reports, the "train lines"... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 29, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Darius43 said: Possibly, but unless there’s a whopping great steel pile down the centre of that brick pier it will be following the car into the cutting... Darius Personally l would have anchored it to the corner pier which would probably give more resistance. As it stood there would still be a chance of dragging it out, a bit of an awkward place to get it slung on a crane with several feet of fresh air under the passenger side. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 29, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 After securing the car with that strap the Fire Brigade went on to attach ropes and chains then dragged the car to safety around 7pm last night. NR due to examine bank today. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Darius43 said: Pure speculation on my part, but that asphalt the car is parked on looks quite new. If it is a recent parking area created for the car, perhaps a combination of the surcharge load of the parked car and the damp conditions led to the slip... Darius 7 hours ago, great central said: If the asphalt is new as you suggest it will quite possibly have been laid using things like a vibrating roller. Likely also having been dug out and backfilled with hardcore first, again being compacted with vibrating tools....... 5 hours ago, Darius43 said: For a small driveway area it may have been laid with smaller tools, but, as I said, this is pure speculation. Darius Looking at the void under the car, it's probably going to be an insurance write off, I wouldn't want to attempt getting in to release the handbrake if they wantid to drag it out! Seeing The Signal Engineers post, that's brave stuff! From the way the slabs have come away, it looks like the asphalt has been merely laid on top of a former concrete driveway to "freshen" it up. It might have been handrolled, or a small vibro compactor used to finish it. Edited January 29, 2021 by Hroth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 16 hours ago, Bucoops said: Regardless of ownership that retaining wall should have had regular inspections (not saying it didn't). Interesting that the fire brigade roped the car to the brick wall. I can't see that holding it so not sure why they did that. I think the photo gives a false impression. If you look on Google Earth streetview, the wall is on the far side of the drive from the railway and is a few meters further back from the retaining wall than the pub wall (it is to be hoped the pub is on solid ground). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 29, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, eastglosmog said: it is to be hoped the pub is on solid ground The low part at the side of the pub is somewhere about where the top of the cutting slope would be if the retaining wall wasn't there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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