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3 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

The newest 2MT tank I have is DCC with a Next 18 chip, a one-piece chassis replacing the old split axle design. 

 

A very nice runner (and it has a motion bracket, which the original ones didn't) but it still has the old body. I gather that Bachmann have taken some flak over that, as they did with their V2. That has subsequently received a retooled body. Hopefully, we'll see something similar happen with the Ivatt in the fullness of time.

 

Incidentally, I haven't noticed anything about it on here, but Bachmann's website has an announcement of some sort of announcement to come this Monday, 8th March, at 10 am.

 

John


Progress announcement on their 25 perhaps? 

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4 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

Incidentally, I haven't noticed anything about it on here, but Bachmann's website has an announcement of some sort of announcement to come this Monday, 8th March, at 10 am.

 

John

 

This is the piece from the email I got the other day from the collectors club. Doesn't seem that exciting as its nothing to do with the railway brands

 

"On Monday Bachmann Europe will be launching the first ever MCC Announcements, covering our plastic kit, toy and collectable brands, and as a valued member of the Bachmann Collectors Club we would like to share this news with you! Just like with the British Railway Announcements, MCC Announcements will showcase all of the latest news on plastic kits, toys and collectables from Bachmann Europe every quarter. Please join us for the virtual launch on Monday at 10:00am. "

 

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Progress announcement on their 25 perhaps? 

 

I've never known Bachmann to to interim updates on their models other than exhibitions/collectors club. 
 

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On 08/03/2021 at 11:16, Mike Bellamy said:

 

OK so who's going to be first to build a 7mm layout using the Natural History Museum Dinosaurs - at a scale of 1:40 that's almost O Gauge!!

 

Mike

 

Wrong scale for me. :stop:

 

Anyway, not my era!  xD

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Rumours that the range included a 1:76 scale model of the latest dinosaur discovery ... the Rivetcountasaurus ... are unfounded. 

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On 17/03/2021 at 07:41, Phil Bullock said:

Rumours that the range included a 1:76 scale model of the latest dinosaur discovery ... the Rivetcountasaurus ... are unfounded. 

Sorry Phil, they have in fact evolved.  After many years in the wilderness, they became the Notformee  tribe.  Sometime in the past, they formed into two distinct sub-species. The one species has got impeccable eyesight;  can tell the difference of all  the different shades of green whilst standing on top of a rain-drenched hillside in midwinter. The second species  is a bit more vocal, and given to religious chants.  "How Much? Jesus! 

 

Both species can and do freely intermingle, and are known to sometimes breed. A quite social animal by nature, large gatherings of them will swarm during the year, when they will perform some strange rituals of poking other members of the tribe in the eye with long, thin bits of steel, eating Scotch Eggs, and sniffing methane of various aroma. 

 

Tootle pip!

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After the 94xx saga, I really hope they don't announce anything I want.  I couldn't cope with all that again...

 

OTOH, given that Baccy have form in doing better versions of Hornby locos (Jinty), I wouldn't mind a 2721 half cab to current standards.  It could be their first pannier without a top feed.

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54 minutes ago, The Johnster said:

After the 94xx saga, I really hope they don't announce anything I want.  I couldn't cope with all that again...

 

OTOH, given that Baccy have form in doing better versions of Hornby locos (Jinty), I wouldn't mind a 2721 half cab to current standards.  It could be their first pannier without a top feed.

If they do announce anything it will be imminent i.e. in the next three months or so - that is how Bachmann operate now, lots of smaller annoucements once the item is ready to go into production.  The announcements are also used to inform on the progress of previously announced items in the backlog.

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True, but the 3-month announcements are for already projected models.  There has been nothing completely new from Bachmann for some time, and presumably they have at least something up their sleeves, even if it's been in secret development, and this presumed model will eventually progress to a stage where it can be announced; Hornby have been doing this though it is somewhat obscured by their predatory pushing forward of models to go head to head with competitors.  I agree that the days of announcing models and then subjecting them to lead times of 5 or 6 years are probably over, and I for one won't be missing them!

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13 minutes ago, The Johnster said:

True, but the 3-month announcements are for already projected models.  There has been nothing completely new from Bachmann for some time, and presumably they have at least something up their sleeves, even if it's been in secret development, and this presumed model will eventually progress to a stage where it can be announced; Hornby have been doing this though it is somewhat obscured by their predatory pushing forward of models to go head to head with competitors.  I agree that the days of announcing models and then subjecting them to lead times of 5 or 6 years are probably over, and I for one won't be missing them!

Anything new is announced the same way now so that they avoid a repeat of the 94xx saga, they will only announce anything completely new when it is ready, everything else is the already announced backlog being cleared.  That's why there was not big announcement in February.

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I'll look forward to my 2721 being announced next month and having it by September, then.  I'd like to see Hornby gazump that!  Dream on, Johnster, who knows, maybe one day it'll happen...

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12 hours ago, woodenhead said:

Anything new is announced the same way now so that they avoid a repeat of the 94xx saga, they will only announce anything completely new when it is ready, everything else is the already announced backlog being cleared.  That's why there was not big announcement in February.

 

Not quite right.

 

The LNWR 2-4-0s have been announced with more than 3 months notice.

 

Probably about a year from announcement before they end up on the shelves.

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/159667-rails-of-sheffield-improved-precedent-class/#comments

 

And yes I do know it's a commission, but my point still stands. They aren't announcing brand new models to be in the shops within the next three months.

 

Like wise the new identities for the V2s. They are well more than three months since announcement.

 

 

 

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On 06/04/2021 at 12:39, Pre Grouping fan said:

Think its due first week of May 


That would make sense, but we’re still waiting for releases announced as Spring - the all new 20/0s and the updated Modified Halls come immediately to mind. Shouldn’t they arrive before more models are announced, or Bachmann will have to play catch up under the new arrangements as well, which they were intended to avoid.

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The aim of release within three months only applies to those models announced in the quarterly announcements by Bachmann. The only models from the 2020 announcements still awaiting release are the EFE Rail OO gauge 1938 Tube Stock Train and N gauge JIA Wagons (the OO gauge JIA and PBA wagons are awaiting a second batch). Of the Spring 2021 announcements:

  • 27 have arrived.
  • 10 are due Apr/May (Witherslack Hall, Sound Fitted Class 20/3 & 24 locos, NCB wagon, Porthole SK and GF Class 66).
  • 10 are due May/Jun (Burton Agnes Hall, China Clay wagon, Porthole BSK, Narrow Gauge Baldwins and GF MK1 RU).
  • 11 are due Jun/Jul (Jubliee, Standard 4 4-6-0 and Class 20/0 & 45 locos).

 

Models such as the Locomotion & Rails limited edition LNER V2 and the exclusive LNWR Improved Precedent Class locos were not announced in the quarterly announcements and were made by Locomotion & Rails, not Bachmann. Therefore they are not subject to the aim of release within three months.

 

Similarly if Bachmann announced a new tooling at EP stage (or later) during a Bachmann Collectors Club day, at model show such as Warley or at a trade event like the London Toy Fair, the aim of release within three months would not apply.

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1 hour ago, Paul.Uni said:

The aim of release within three months only applies to those models announced in the quarterly announcements by Bachmann. The only models from the 2020 announcements still awaiting release are the EFE Rail OO gauge 1938 Tube Stock Train and N gauge JIA Wagons (the OO gauge JIA and PBA wagons are awaiting a second batch). Of the Spring 2021 announcements:

  • 27 have arrived.
  • 10 are due Apr/May (Witherslack Hall, Sound Fitted Class 20/3 & 24 locos, NCB wagon, Porthole SK and GF Class 66).
  • 10 are due May/Jun (Burton Agnes Hall, China Clay wagon, Porthole BSK, Narrow Gauge Baldwins and GF MK1 RU).
  • 11 are due Jun/Jul (Jubliee, Standard 4 4-6-0 and Class 20/0 & 45 locos).

 

Models such as the Locomotion & Rails limited edition LNER V2 and the exclusive LNWR Improved Precedent Class locos were not announced in the quarterly announcements and were made by Locomotion & Rails, not Bachmann. Therefore they are not subject to the aim of release within three months.

 

Similarly if Bachmann announced a new tooling at EP stage (or later) during a Bachmann Collectors Club day, at model show such as Warley or at a trade event like the London Toy Fair, the aim of release within three months would not apply.

 

My point being they aren't going to announce brand new models to arrive in the three month period. They are going to give you something like a year to save up.

 

Seriously. People expect them to announce something like an LMS 8F and say "It'll be here next week! That's X hundred pounds please."

 

Not happening. It's different if it's a new version of an existing model. But you can't expect people to just drop everything and spend hundreds of pounds on new models like that.

 

And anyone expecting that to happen just aren't living in reality....

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One does wonder that, if Bach are looking to release another Western model, what that might entail. 

 

I'm most definitely not wishlisting at all, you understand. However, a little crystal ball gazing shouldn't harm.... famous last words....) 

 

Let's see...

 

A Scottish locomotive,

A  down South locomotive, such as a Neilson  (GER ) tank.

Some more generic wagons.

 

Coming up on the outside... A NG16 Garrett.

 

Coming up even further on the extreme outside.... 4mm Broad gauge....

 

 

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14 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

My point being they aren't going to announce brand new models to arrive in the three month period. They are going to give you something like a year to save up.

 

Seriously. People expect them to announce something like an LMS 8F and say "It'll be here next week! That's X hundred pounds please."

 

Not happening. It's different if it's a new version of an existing model. But you can't expect people to just drop everything and spend hundreds of pounds on new models like that.

 

And anyone expecting that to happen just aren't living in reality....

 

That is exactly how it will work.  Bachmann were very clear they would only announce items due within 3 months at each quarterly announcement, and that includes new tooling items.

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