cheesysmith Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Clayton are suppling a new class 18 loco to be registered on network rail. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2021 Is this what you are referring to? Clayton to build 15 electric shunters for Beacon Rail | RailFreight.com https://www.railfreight.com/business/2020/05/27/uk-clayton-shunts-into-electric-future-with-beacon/ 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted February 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2021 Or maybe this? 2 1 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, ColinK said: Or maybe this? Oh dear !! (Just a bit playground toilet humour, don't you think)? John Isherwood. Edited February 5, 2021 by cctransuk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2021 According to that article there are still 1000 350s in service! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60B Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, russ p said: According to that article there are still 1000 350s in service! And left out how dreadful the 17s were that they often ran in pairs incase one went kaput. Kind of like asking Lucas to wire your house. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabag Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Lucas, Prince of automotive darkness. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted February 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5, 2021 So to keep these new shunters running sweetly, you just need to keep applying some CBD oil. Thats far out man....... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted February 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2021 10 hours ago, russ p said: According to that article there are still 1000 350s in service! Actually the article said, "Even so, some of the over 1000 derivatives are still in service today." (my bold) Not sure what they meant by derivatives here? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Welly said: Actually the article said, "Even so, some of the over 1000 derivatives are still in service today." (my bold) Not sure what they meant by derivatives here? Agreed the grammar could better be. I expect they are referring to the Class 08, 09, 10 and the 11s, at a push. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Does the hybrid 08 plan include replacing the engine? I thought the tendency to leave the things with their engines running (for years in some cases) was because they were tricky to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 They're not that much of a problem to start. You just have to manually pump up the oil pressure beforehand if your doing it properly. At least I think it's the oil pressure, I've only done it once and it was a couple of minutes of pumping something and away it went. 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60B Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 hours ago, 'CHARD said: Agreed the grammar could better be. I expect they are referring to the Class 08, 09, 10 and the 11s, at a push. Handful of NS 600s as well. 2 hours ago, Zomboid said: They're not that much of a problem to start. You just have to manually pump up the oil pressure beforehand if your doing it properly. At least I think it's the oil pressure, I've only done it once and it was a couple of minutes of pumping something and away it went. Pretty confident it was a fuel pump. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adanapress Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I have an operational oo gauge diesel electric bo-bo loco, which I choose to call a 'class 18', entirely fictitious of course The story being that a stretched 08 was offered first to the overseas market (some reality in there) and the prototype (only) ''was eventually sold to BR''. Two 08 bodies butchered of course, etc etc Looks quite good in fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 08's were never a problem to start, And yes the manual pump is / was (a lot of locos were retro fitted with an electric pump) for fuel and didn't need to be pumped before starting- unless of course the header tank had been allowed to run dry! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I suppose the pumping means that they wouldn't be well suited to the on/off cycling that a typical hybrid drive demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted February 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2021 There are two different manual pumps on 350s, the fuel transfer pump in the cab that takes fuel from the main to the header tank, and the oil priming pump in the engine compartment that should be used for a couple of minutes before attempting to start the engine. Andi 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken.W Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 The issue with starting 08s, common to most 1st Gen. locos /DMUs, was the HP7 battery used. Plus, in the case of shunters, often being outstationed at yards, they were remote from chargers / replacements if they failed to start. The manual pump in the cab was the fuel transfer pump (main tank to header tank above it, which then gravity fed the engine) but IIRC, there was also another manual pump behind the front engine bay door for lub. oil priming 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted February 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2021 Glad to see that my memory is still good, not been on an 08 since 1988! Andi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken.W Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 20 hours ago, russ p said: According to that article there are still 1000 350s in service! Also according to that article; "the largest locomotive built in the UK in over 20 years." Erm, no, that was Tornado 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, 101 said: 08's were never a problem to start, And yes the manual pump is / was (a lot of locos were retro fitted with an electric pump) for fuel and didn't need to be pumped before starting- unless of course the header tank had been allowed to run dry! Mmmm so you must of known some of the 'old's hand drivers who use to allow header tank to drop to near zero... Told on old Dodger on reliving me one day I had pumped it up to max! He made me a brew in mess room(never heard of!) And went out to shunt with a stride in his bowed out legs...didn't have the heart to tell him th 08 had been swamped for a pump fitted one... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 45 minutes ago, Dagworth said: Glad to see that my memory is still good, not been on an 08 since 1988! Andi Me too! 1993 when thay shut garston depot!....no more hand pumping...!! Well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berwicksfinest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) Without wishing to go off topic, all your manual transfer pumps on an 08 It takes a Peterborough Driver with ingenuity !!! open forward facing window attach strong twine or similar to window wiper. and turn window wiper on ........ voila, air operated fuel transfer pump that you don't need to touch all shift. Edited February 6, 2021 by berwicksfinest spelling 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfordbuffer Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, berwicksfinest said: Without wishing to go off topic, all your manual transfer pumps on an 08 It takes a Peterborough Driver with ingenuity !!! open forward facing window attach strong twine or similar to window wiper. and turn window wiper on ........ voila, air operated fuel transfer pump that you don't need to touch all shift. Sorry but your 30 years to late..... got a left arm like popeye the sailor man! At least both arms match! To be sat on the ' comfortable class 08 seat' only left arm could reach! I say comfortable.... no so much on a allerton to Chester and return 08 move... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted February 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, bradfordbuffer said: Sorry but your 30 years to late..... got a left arm like popeye the sailor man! At least both arms match! To be sat on the ' comfortable class 08 seat' only left arm could reach! I say comfortable.... no so much on a allerton to Chester and return 08 move... Just make sure you had a wooden chair key in the cab. Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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