RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 1, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 minute ago, young37215 said: Fabulous work with these kits, they look superb. I can only find a tin of Halfords red oxide, no spray cans. How did you manage to spray the rails, thinned paint and an airbrush? Just checked the Halfords rattle can - it’s called “Red Primer”, missing the word “Oxide”. Apologies Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 28/02/2021 at 10:55, Darius43 said: Decals applied followed by some light weathering. The rails are from “used” Peco code 75 track lengths sprayed with Halfords red oxide primer. Cheers Darius If only somebody made scale rail in plastic, it would not only make cutting up lengths for loads a lot easier, but would also considerably lighten the load of a wagon. I built a prototypical pile for one of my Salmons, and even with the middle bit left hollow, it still weighed far too much, a train of them would probably buckle a baseboard. I looked into having resin castings made of the finished object, but it seems the small gaps inbetween the stacked rails can't be reproduced, obvious when you think about it. Mike. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 1, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) Regarding the Shapeways rail cranes, I had an email this morning reconfirming tomorrow’s delivery, followed by an email a few hours later saying they had been delivered. On opening my front door I found a small box on the doormat containing these. They are a tad too wide for the Cambrian Salmon wagon deck and so will have to be modified to suit (better than being too small though). Cheers Darius Edited February 26, 2023 by Darius43 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 1, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) The crane base (and presumably the jib as well) are 3mm too wide compared to the Cambrian wagon deck. Using a razor saw I carefully cut out a 2mm section of base and jib - 2mm to allow for tolerance and the saw blade thickness. The plastic is quite brittle so take great care and time with this. The little lugs at the ends of the base are especially fragile. I lost two when cutting the first base but fortunately found them and glued them back. Cheers Darius Edited February 26, 2023 by Darius43 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 1, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) Primer on - a little bit of filling and sanding required to hide the worst of the joint lines. Ideally with a 3D printed part you shouldn’t have to do this sort of modification but it is still (just about) easier than scratch building. Looking at the pictures in the Hornby Mag Engineers Wagons bookazine these 3D prints are similar to the Genesis kits examples. Cheers Darius Edited February 26, 2023 by Darius43 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 1, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) Cranes painted, weathered and fitted to the wagon. Cheers Darius Edited February 26, 2023 by Darius43 6 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted March 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 1, 2021 Certainly match pics of the Irish ones, I will put an order together for Shapeways stuff later, to make post charge a bit more worth it. Thanks Great wagon build with the customary sharp neat production. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 3, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) Second set of rail cranes “shortened” and affixed to one of the completed Salmons. Handrails were made from brass rod bent to shape and painted with Halfords white primer. The steps were made from plasticard and brass rod. Cheers Darius Edited February 26, 2023 by Darius43 7 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Oh no, I can feel more projects looming looking through this thread! I just missed out on a couple of Salmon's on Ebay not long back and iv been kicking myself for missing them.. Top work as ever Darius. Them cranes really do add to the models, good to know they are available. All the best James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted March 4, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) Now with added Code 75 rail load (minus straps). Mike (Enterprisingwestern) is right - these model loads are quite heavy. Plastic rail sections would be very useful. Even better would be flexible rubberised rail loads that could be used to model a CWR train... Cheers Darius Edited February 26, 2023 by Darius43 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I need to unearth my part-complete Sturgeon build of half a dozen: three dropsides and three flats. Been through a couple of house moves since the project was paused, so no doubt bogies and door handles will have shaken themselves free and/ or disappeared.... Watch this space. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pillar Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) One thing to note regarding the Cambrian Salmon kit: it's quite difficult to keep flat and apparrently prone to warping unless braced. People usually seem to recommend some kind of brass angle or box section to remedy this. I finally got around to adding some 2.5mm box section behind the solebars of my ~10 year old Salmon the other day and it seems to have worked nicely. I glued using Gorilla epoxy and clamped it flat to a glass plate while it cured. The wagon is now much flatter and heavier, and the brass is just about hidden behind the solebars. Apologies for the bad photo quality. Cheers, Liam Edit - FYI, the horizontal cross braces, chain box and air distributor all needed removing to get the brass in place. This may be a bit more of a pain on a model that's already been painted. Edited March 9, 2021 by Pillar 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted March 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2021 I report than an attempt to get some cranes from Shapeways may have failed as I have been emailed by Shapeways that the cranes failed prepoduction checks as non printable - designer contacted - so will have to see what happens ... Great works as always. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Pillar said: One thing to note regarding the Cambrian Salmon kit: it's quite difficult to keep flat and apparrently prone to warping unless braced. People usually seem to recommend some kind of brass angle or box section to remedy this. I finally got around to adding some 2.5mm box section behind the solebars of my ~10 year old Salmon the other day and it seems to have worked nicely. I glued using Gorilla epoxy and clamped it flat to a glass plate while it cured. The wagon is now much flatter and heavier, and the brass is just about hidden behind the solebars. Apologies for the bad photo quality. Cheers, Liam Edit - FYI, the horizontal cross braces, chain box and air distributor all needed removing to get the brass in place. This may be a bit more of a pain on a model that's already been painted. Nice work (just admiring the brake assemblies, too, I have to make a set of these for a work in progress). An alternative, that's probably cheaper, are spare bike spokes. OK, so mine came free with a wheel that I'd worn through the rim on, but they're pretty inexpensive. Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 26, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2023 Pictures restored. Cheers Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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