Ian Blenk Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 The Brampton Line or Lord Carlisle’s railway never had a proper name as it wasn’t built under an act of parliament. It was chiefly a mineral line running from Brampton in Cumberland to Lambley in Northumberland across some pretty wild country, on the way it served a variety of enterprises and over the years owned some obscure locomotive types including at one time ‘The Rocket’ which was spectacularly unsuccessful at hauling mineral trains. I can do no more that recommend you read Lord Carlisle’s Railways by Webb and Gordon. When I was young my parents had a cottage at the East end of the railway near Lambley and I used to roam wild along the formation of the line, I spent weeks once trying to haul a length of fish bellied rail back to my folk’s place and was always pestering them to liberate a stone block sleeper in the back of the car, no dice. I think you get to a certain age and want to try and recreate your youth, so I thought I’d have a go at Hallbankgate, which is a small village through which the railway ran. It had a two-road engine shed a few coal sidings and one for the local Co-op which had merchandise brought in by rail. It was also at the head of a self-working incline that ran down to Kirkhouse, where there was brickworks, gasworks wagon shop and at one time loco works. And so begins Tarnhouse a pastiche of Hallbankgate, Don’t hold your breath guys it will be a slow burn! The building carcass is for Planhead brake house 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Looks interesting - what scale are you working in ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Barclay said: Looks interesting - what scale are you working in ? 4mm, only 00 I'm afraid! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardman Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 We once owned a cottage on the side of this railway in the 50's. The track had gone by then, but I walked the line from Brampton junction to Tindale. The cottage site is still there on Google Earth, but has been rebuilt into a larger house. There were still a few chairs, sleepers, etc. around at that time. and some signs of wagon loading points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Yardman said: We once owned a cottage on the side of this railway in the 50's. The track had gone by then, but I walked the line from Brampton junction to Tindale. The cottage site is still there on Google Earth, but has been rebuilt into a larger house. There were still a few chairs, sleepers, etc. around at that time. and some signs of wagon loading points. It's a fascinating place, with still plenty to see even now, in normal times we love going up there for walks and picnics. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yardman Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 There was what looked like a gate keepers hut at Hallbank Gate, still in existance in the early 60's. the course of the railway was clearly visible, but the track and gates had gone. Someone probably has photographs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 There is one on the other side of the road. It is interesting to know there were gates there, I kind of suspected that because of the buildings. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) Ah yes can see gate posts on the Fleetwood Shawe photo and the 'Whistle' sign Edited February 10, 2021 by Ian Blenk 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I have the book on Lord Carlisle's railways and this looks an interesting project. Will you be scratchbuilding the locomotives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ruston said: I have the book on Lord Carlisle's railways and this looks an interesting project. Will you be scratchbuilding the locomotives? Well, only two locos planned; Naworth No 6 Tindale. I know they ran at diff times. Naworth a Hattons Barclay with correct cab and bunker plus dumb buffers. Tindale a CPS Avonside. I would like a go at Dandie Dinmount on a B4 chassis. I have scratch built some wagons, so I'm not going completely 'out the box!' Uncontrolled tremor due to Dystonia makes scratchbuilding a bit of a challenge! 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 hours ago, Ian Blenk said: Well, only two locos planned; Naworth No 6 Tindale. I know they ran at diff times. Naworth a Hattons Barclay with correct cab and bunker plus dumb buffers. Tindale a CPS Avonside. I would like a go at Dandie Dinmount on a B4 chassis. I have scratch built some wagons, so I'm not going completely 'out the box!' Uncontrolled tremor due to Dystonia makes scratchbuilding a bit of a challenge! I had the very same idea to make Dandie Dinmont myself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Ruston said: I had the very same idea to make Dandie Dinmont myself. Great minds! I have a few projects on the go; 2NOL for South Gallions is about 3/4 finished Harton No1 for Tynebank is nearly there and of course the loco's for T'house, whether I will get around to D.D. I don't know, but I don't anticipate building any more layouts after this one. I have a surplus of kits I need to get rid of as I will never get them finished! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattDitch Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Following this with interest I've long been interested in this railway. Out of curiosity is possible to walk any sections of the route today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 11, 2021 Author Share Posted February 11, 2021 (edited) Some work done on fretting out the carcass of the co-op. The railway pre-dates this building which was started in 1873 and completed a couple of years later by Naworth Co-operative Society Limited. The roof was altered after the railway closed in 1952. It is now the Hallbankgate Hub an excellent asset to the village. There were other co-ops at Tindale and Halton-le-gate which received goods by rail. Edited February 11, 2021 by Ian Blenk 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingmoorkid Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 A railway that has interested me since I first saw trackbed and bits of infrastructure in the 70's. Nothing much seems to have changed up there since, still plenty of remains to see and bits of the route are walkable, with some footpaths round Tindale now on the old trackbed. I'm guessing that those interested will have seen Ernie Brack's site on Flickr, if not he has an Album on the Brampton Railway with 30+ images. I'll be following progress. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 Some progress on Plane Head brake cabin 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 Some progress 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Running through to check clearances etc before building dimensions are finalised. The Barclay will eventually become Naworth No.6 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Waiting for brass to arrive in post, so made some autumn trees, please take down if not industrial enough! Still needs a bit of a clip out Edited February 23, 2021 by Ian Blenk 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Really interesting project and quick progress as well. I've long been interested in the Brampton and Lord Carlisle railways as well as my main interest in the M&CR and like others, spotted the similarity between Dandie Dimont and the M&CR's pair of 0-4-0t used at Maryport docks. I model in EM and hadn't thought of using a B4 as the basis of one of these engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 On 09/02/2021 at 19:50, Ian Blenk said: The Brampton Line or Lord Carlisle’s railway never had a proper name as it wasn’t built under an act of parliament. It was chiefly a mineral line running from Brampton in Cumberland to Lambley in Northumberland across some pretty wild country, on the way it served a variety of enterprises and over the years owned some obscure locomotive types including at one time ‘The Rocket’ which was spectacularly unsuccessful at hauling mineral trains. I can do no more that recommend you read Lord Carlisle’s Railways by Webb and Gordon. When I was young my parents had a cottage at the East end of the railway near Lambley and I used to roam wild along the formation of the line, I spent weeks once trying to haul a length of fish bellied rail back to my folk’s place and was always pestering them to liberate a stone block sleeper in the back of the car, no dice. I think you get to a certain age and want to try and recreate your youth, so I thought I’d have a go at Hallbankgate, which is a small village through which the railway ran. It had a two-road engine shed a few coal sidings and one for the local Co-op which had merchandise brought in by rail. It was also at the head of a self-working incline that ran down to Kirkhouse, where there was brickworks, gasworks wagon shop and at one time loco works. And so begins Tarnhouse a pastiche of Hallbankgate, Don’t hold your breath guys it will be a slow burn! The building carcass is for Planhead brake house Just struck me that the layout of Tarnhouse / Hallbankgate is very reminiscent of all those US shunting planks layouts (aka 'switchman's nightmare'). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, CKPR said: Really interesting project and quick progress as well. I've long been interested in the Brampton and Lord Carlisle railways as well as my main interest in the M&CR and like others, spotted the similarity between Dandie Dimont and the M&CR's pair of 0-4-0t used at Maryport docks. I model in EM and hadn't thought of using a B4 as the basis of one of these engines. I don't know whether I will get DD done I had only planned for Tindale and No6. I am hoping to make more progress with the buildings in a few days, I am waiting for some brass tube to complete the TOUs, In normal times I could have just gone to Wigton Model Shop! I put a snap of the M&CR Neilsons on RMweb a while back, Here it is again I don't know where the print came from so cannot acknowledge it. They were replaced with a cut down L&Y pug. Edited February 23, 2021 by Ian Blenk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, CKPR said: Just struck me that the layout of Tarnhouse / Hallbankgate is very reminiscent of all those US shunting planks layouts (aka 'switchman's nightmare'). It is a very shortened version of Hallbankgate, I have missed out the general siding at the SE end. The model minus FYs is only 3' x 1' it fits under one of my other models 'Tynebank' 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 Plane Head brake house finished. Starting on the Co-op next, that will take a while! 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Blenk Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 Basic stone work in place on Co-op 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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