RMweb Gold kipford Posted October 30, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) That is excellent, but in your assembled shots, the buffer stop rail tops should be flush with the running rail top. Thanks but Its only temporarliy layed on a piece of spare track and has not been fully pushed home. Regards Dave Edited October 30, 2012 by kipford 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post kipford Posted November 6, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2012 Some notes and photos on the station building. The building as I mentioned in an earlier post is based in the style of the original Kemp Town building shown in the photo below. It’s a bit longer than the length available so it got squashed up a bit. So we ended up with this As I mentioned in an earlier post the shell was laser cut in 2 mm MDF, with the doors and windows in 0.75 mm Romark. The roof coins (if thats the right word) were laser cut along with an alignment jig which made the glueing in place a doodle. View of the back of the building The canopy is a mix of laser cut Romark and Evergreen strip. The first photo shows two of the basic trusses. These were edged with 0.5 x.0.5 square section form the flanges of I beams. The same method was used for the longitudinal beams. The next couple of photos shows a bit more detail . Finally I trial fitted both parts to the layout tonight Still lots more to do, filling, painting etc. Dave 47 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Your layout looks great every post,thanks for the detail construction photos . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold John B Posted November 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2012 That canopy is a work of plastic engineering art. Splendid stuff, Dave. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomstaf Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I'm liking this an awful lot - it's one I never tire looking at! I'm looking forward to seeing more Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I really like that station and am very impressed with the platform canopy, looking forward to seeing things develop, Regards, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 That really is first class modelling, the station canopy is a work of art in plastic modelling. Great work Sir. Like the others I am really looking forward to your next update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
16A Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Good to see CATIA being put to good use for once, makes a change from planes and F1 chassis! Are you managing it in SmartTeam too? lol Who knows, I might have even trained you on V5. Great bit of modelling going on there, look forward to seeing more. Adriano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold kipford Posted November 13, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2012 Adriano Nice to hear from a fellow high end CAD fellow. I must admit in my current position as Chief Designer for an Aerospace company I do not get the seat time I used to, so modelling projects keep my hand in. Do not mention smarteam, the only piece of CAD software where the time taken to produce a model and drawing at least doubles in time and crashes with monotomous regularity Regards Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Only just found this thread. What a superb project and so wonderfully described and illustrated. Prototype is relatively local to me so it'll be nice to see the development continue. Thanks.... Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I've just read through this thread from the beginning and I have to say I was impressed enough before you got to the buildings and buffer stops. very nice work. I can't wait for the station buildings and canopy to be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eggesford box Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Great modelling. Having always been a drawing board and craft knife type it really impresses me with what can be achieved with the newer technology. Try dentils or corbels for the projections under the roof line. No doubt someone with more architectural knowledge than me will be able to elucidate further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold kipford Posted December 9, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2012 Thanks for the comments guys, its really appreciated I have only just noticed, due to pressure of other things! Latest (additional) project, its too cold to undercoat the station building at present, is plate buffer stops for the running lines ala Brighton. Pete Harvey does a very similar one in etched brass but they are in OO and will not do an EM version unless he gets a minimum of 12 to make the etch viable which is fair. So I have done my own version using a mix of laser cut parts and Evergreen section. Two are part assembled and it all seems OK so far. The difference with these from other laser cut parts is that Jonathan of the laser cutter now has a phenolic paper, basically that used for transformer laminations, which is available in 025 mm and 0.5 mm thickness, this is now opening up a new level of fidelity which was not available with Romark. I will post some pictures when I get the first one assembled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post kipford Posted December 14, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) Some pictures of the first off ‘Plate Buffer Stop’. As the layout is Brighton based the only buffer stop to use for the station running lines was something like those used at Brighton station. As I mentioned in the last post these are very similar to those that Pete Harvey makes but they are only available in OO. So it was out with the CAD machine and see what I could sort out for myself using laser cut parts. The breakthrough came when Jonathan got hold of some phenolic impregnated paper in 0.25 and 0.5 mm thickness. The result was a basic kit of parts with a slot and tab construction, using evergreen section for the scratch built items. The next two pictures show the basic assembly drawing with the laser cut parts, as cut and ready for assembly Then we have the first one assembled but not yet painted When painted I will add some more pictures Edited December 14, 2012 by kipford 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 very nice model there. will look perfect when painted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi Kipford, That is a mighty fine production of a buffer stop. There are some similar ones in Aberystwyth and they have some clamps on the rails behind the stops. I suppose these are a last line of defence if the stop is moved backwards. Thought I'd mention it as you are the sort of modeller who would include details like that. The station building and canopy are also so evocative of the Italianate style used by the LB&SCR. I don't know if I mentioned it before, but I have a copy of the track plan of Kemptown. They certainly squeezed a lot of track into a small space on the real thing! I must say that the EMUs at Brighton are a lot more colourful than when I was last there as a passenger in the mid-seventies. All the best, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold kipford Posted December 15, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2012 Colin Thanks for the comments. Ref the clamps I agree I need check the stops at Brighton, we normally go to Brighton train to see my Son. For various reasons this year we had to drive each time so I have not been able check for myself and I have been unable to find a photo on the interweb of the stops taken from the opposite way to those above. Thanks for the offer of the Kemp Town track plan, I actually have a copy in the Peter Harding book on the branch. Brighton East was never meant to be a copy of Kemp Town but is an in the spirit of. The track plan although short in length, a similar setting to Ventnor, appears to require wide base boards. I must admit though it does cross my mind every so often to build Kemp Town and set it around 1960-1962 ish but assuming again the passenger service had remained open and been electrified. I think I will spend a few lunch time hours setting it out on Templot to see how much room it really needs and report back. Shunting a 4 way point with the toe located in the tunnel mouth, would be interesting, see the photo below, a case for Alex Jackson couplings me thinks. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold kipford Posted December 20, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2012 I have spent a couple of lunchtimes with the real track plan. Here is the fruits of the labour. In 4mm scale without any compression the length is only 14 ft (very usable) howver the width!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8ft. Would be an interesting challenge because it remained pretty much as drawn up to closure. What do you think Colin? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2012 The trouble with an 8'-wide layout is reach, obviously. You might be able to reach 4', but sustained work at that reach can be very tiring on the back etc. I prefer a layout at 4' or more elevation, and that could be quite tricky with so wide a board. You would also need to be able to get round all three scenic sides during operating sessions. Not recommended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Hi Kipford, Sorry I didn't see this post yesterday. Rather distracted by Hornby 2 BIL discussion! Re. the plan, that is certainly an interesting piece of work. I haven't looked at my copy of the original LB&SCR plan for a while, so it was a surprise to see how wide the site was. There was a remarkable amount of trackwork for the area and the running line is dead straight. It almost looks like a model railway! Given that you used an automatic coupling system, it would be entirely possible to operate a layout of this width - unless there was a derailment. It throws up the question though: How would the baseboards be designed? In a radical departure from conventional layout building, it looks as if seven 8' x 2' boards transversely arranged would be best in avoiding joints through pointwork. But what about that four-way point? Just imagine: the whole layout relies on that point functioning correctly. Rather you than me Kipford! Given that EMUs were stored in the tunnel during WWII, a point (no pun intended) could be stretched to model Kemptown with 3rd rail electrification. In fact a couple of 2 BILs wouldn't go amiss if you did! This reply is a bit off-topic, but we can all see now how you developed your ideas for Brighton East from Kemptown. All the best, Colin Edited December 21, 2012 by Colin parks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post kipford Posted January 21, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Time for a few more updates. Christmas was quite a busy period and I felt like a bit of a change from buildings: So introducing 'Caroline' the MARC Models kit of 975025. This was an xmas present from my wife and the photos below show the progress to date. The basic body is finished with interior and underframe detailing to do. Its going to be finished in the livery as refurbished by Fragonset in the late 1990's. Over Christmas more time was spent on buildings. As mentioned before my son is a medical student in Brighton and he has spent a lot of the last 5 years in The Royal Sussex County Hospital Barry building. So this is our homage to the place and it fills a big hole in the background. Its not quite finished, you can see the drain pipes are only just going in. Again its a mixture of laser cut shell, window and the fire escape railings coupled with scratch build. to make things a bit more interesting we have added some scaffolding where remedial exterior work is taking place. The scaffold involved a quick crash course in scalffold design and lot of Evergreen plast rod and strip. I will add some photos of the building was constructed when I have photos of the finished building. [ Finally to show its not just my work - The bulk oxygen supply for the hospital, scratch built by my son. Its not quite finished but shows the intent. Almost forgot. I am demonstrating at Southampton Show on the Saturday (26th only as its my wifes birthday on Sunday) along with Jonathan Buckie (Great Shefford. We are going to show how we use computers and modern manufacturing techniques in our modelling. I will be taking the terrace houses, station building and canopy, the buffers etc. So if anyone is there pop along and say hello. Edited January 21, 2013 by kipford 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyrush Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Scaffolding looks really good (as does the rest of it, of course!). Did you simulate the clamps, and if so, how? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold kipford Posted January 21, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2013 Andy Did you simulate the clamps, and if so, how? Thought about it, using something like a thick thread and cyno, but as you view from 2ft away you will be hard pressed to see it and life is just to short! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hi Dave, Impressive new pictures! I'm sure most of my family were patients in that hospital building at some point! The colour is bang-on for the walls. Have you turned the facade to face east?! All the best, Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d winpenny Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Looking superb, David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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