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Hi,

Just acquired this rather pretty 2-4-0T loco body from eBay. I suspect it's scratchbuilt from brass - don't think it's a kit. At present it claims to be a GWR loco. It has a number, 1170, painted onto the underside - I believe the GWR number 1170 was assigned to a Buffalo saddle tank? This model may represent a loco absorbed by the GWR at the Grouping? Alternatively it may be a well-proportioned freelance design? Google Images has produced similar looking locos but not a match. Any thoughts gratefully received. TIA. Paul.

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39 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

Looks like some sort of Sharp Stewart.

 

 

Jason

I guess its not out of the question that it might be an 0-6-0T? It shares similarities with Stewart Reidpath custom builds? When it arrives I will try the body with a S-R 0-6-0 chassis, see if it fits and how it looks.

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1189-1194 were mainly Sharp Stewart 2-4-0Ts. I'm not sure 1170 was allocated to anything absorbed. I'm sure a tank engine like that would not have been lined out, even simply like that, and I would have thought anything in GWR  green livery would have had two whistles and a safety valve cover. So a pretty little freelance I suspect.

 

Looks like something the Cambrian or MSWJR could have owned, I suppose!

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The Barry Railway A class was a Sharpie 0-6-0T and the C a 2-4-0T, also Sharp, Stewart, and this loco might be intended to represent one of these.  If so the livery is incorrect, as the A were all scrapped by 1932 and the C by 1928, while the shirtbutton dates from 1934.

 

The number is well off for the Barry locos; the GW renumbered the A class (there were 5) between 699 and 706, and the C class (there were 4 of these) 783/4 and 1322/3.  Of course a number painted underneath might not refer to the loco’s running number at all. 

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The loco body has arrived!

 

It's a very neat build. Suggests a good scratch build in brass rather than an etched kit. Has some simplified backhead detailing. Body is well weighted with lead. Suspect it could easily be an 0-6-0T with smaller diameter driving wheels? I need to source a replacement leading wheel leafspring casting (as found on GWR Metro tanks). BTW, it features a Westinghouse pump and tiny sprung buffers.

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I haven't got the books to hand, but may I suggest the Alexander Docks & Junction Railway?  ISTR that something similar made it's way to Newport. One company did indeed acquire  a Metro, but blowed if I can remember. 

 

That's a nice looking model.  I'd suggest the Western would replace the Salter safety valves PDQ.

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Its certainly like nothing the Rhymney had built. What do you know about the provenance? I wonder if this little model has been through a number of hands, and that the GW paint has no connection with the original builder's intentions.

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It looks to me like an accurate model of Isle of Wight Central Railway No. 8.  Built by Beyer Peacock and delivered in 1898 and withdrawn by the Southern in 1929.

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Note the photo caption is incorrect, as their 1875 Beyers were even smaller. No 8 was also smaller than the large Beyers as modelled in the Golden Arrow kit, which were supplied to the Isle of Wight Railway, although the IoWCR acquired a similar one purchased in 1906 from the MSWJR.

 

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Just a note that the Mainly Trains chassis for the Cambrian 2-4-0T, https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/locomotive/mt104/ , might be a suitable underpinning for this model, with a few modifications, assuming it's 4mm:-

IoWCR No. 8 - Wheelbase 5' 10" + 6' 4" - wheels 3' 4" and 5' 1"

GWR No. 1192 - Wheelbase 6' 0" + 6' 3" - wheels 3' 0" and 4' 6"

 

 

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