paulontheball Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Hi, Question for the wise... can anybody advise if the 2F 0-6-0 Johnson tender loco's found their way onto the S&C in LMS or BR days or both? I have spent some time googling this but not found any record of it.... but that may just be my poor googling skills! Many thanks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2021 According to the 1945 allocation list given in C. Hawkins & G. Reeve, LMS Engine Sheds Vol. 2 (Wild Swan, 1981), Hellifield had 3352 but it seems unlikely venturing up the S&C was the reason for it being there. Skipton had four: 3037, 3052, 3477, 3554 but again, these probably worked the local lines. Of course a good many went new to Carlisle and Leeds to work the S&C but that was back in the 1870s and 80s, rather before the period of your question! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I've never seen any images of them around in BR days at all to be honest. Not even on the lesser routes on the area. Skipton had some Johnson 3Fs which appear to have ventured around a bit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulontheball Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 Many thanks both. Your responses are pretty much what I suspected as these were getting quite elderly, (certainly in the BR period) and probably suited to smaller branches. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-Miles Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 We had a family holiday in Horton in Ribblesdale in 1960. I spent a lot of time watching the S&C and I didn't see a 2F. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 hours ago, John-Miles said: We had a family holiday in Horton in Ribblesdale in 1960. I spent a lot of time watching the S&C and I didn't see a 2F. Walking up Ingleborough backwards... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 55 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Walking up Ingleborough backwards... I've yet to walk up Ingleborough and be able to see anything 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 We went up there on a school Geology field trip in about 1984 and saw a Black Five. 5407 ISTR. Totally forgot about that! Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: We went up there on a school Geology field trip in about 1984 and saw a Black Five. 5407 ISTR. Totally forgot about that! Jason No mean feat of driving, if true. Wouldn’t have fancied being the fireman, though.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 You should not under estimate a 2F. In the 1930s they would still work up the S&C, certainly on lesser shorter jobs like the pick up freights and ballast workings. Don't forget that the vast influx of Black Fives and 8Fs onto the LMS was really a WW2 onwards build programme. Therefore 4Fs, Crabs and 3Fs would have been the mainstay of the freight workings with 2Fs on shorter lighter jobs. Tony 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-Miles Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 19 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Walking up Ingleborough backwards... And Penyghent - there is a good Welsh name for you in the midst of the Ribble Valley (there is also Pendle) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) I've never done the Three Peaks myself (and never will) but take vicarious satisfaction in my sons having done it three years ago. I've been up Ingleborough twice, from the Ingleton-Hawes road, but a long time ago! Edited February 16, 2021 by Compound2632 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, John-Miles said: And Penyghent - there is a good Welsh name for you in the midst of the Ribble Valley (there is also Pendle) Until about 850CE Welsh was the common language in the north-west though it might have helped if you had a smattering of Latin too particularly if you needed to talk to officialdom who were clerical. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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