Popular Post Prometheus Posted February 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) One of the more straightforward cut-and-shuts, this has been on my bench for a little while, mostly awaiting fine weather to allow painting and varnishing. It is, at last, complete. It comprised pieces of two Triang Clerestory Brakes, some extremely vintage K's Dean bogies [a project in themselves, frankly], Finecast flush-glazing, Ratio seats and various bits and pieces from the spares box. It awaits some Bachmann couplings and the bogies a light weathering. The splicing was pleasingly straightforward. Apologies for the poor photos, I am sans camera currently and had to use my phone in very strong light. I must paint the inner wheel faces, too. Finally, alongside the other Triang coach, for comparison. Tony Edited February 18, 2021 by Prometheus 13 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nickwood Posted February 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2021 I love seeing a well done cut and shut Triang Clerestory. Nice job again. It was your projects which inspired me to have a go. So far I’ve done a C10, D37, two D15’s and a PBV out of Triang Clerestories and a Clifton Downs set out of Ratio 4 wheelers 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Thanks for that Nick - appreciated. A D37 is on the list but not until I have finished 'improving' [well, trying to at any rate] a Triang Caledonian Brake. Tony 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted February 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2021 I agree with Nick, it looks excellent. I like the glazing, very neat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Thank you. It's bog-standard Finecast flushglaze Mikkel, liberally coated inside and out with Klear, which seems to make a shade more glass-like from a foot away. Tony 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2021 I tried doing this once but owing to a user competence error, ended up with a 7-compartment coach... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Admirable honesty! You could dine out on that story!!!! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted February 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2021 I'm trying to picture Stephen at an extravagant dinner party, formal attire, champagne flowing, and then that smooth opening line: "I once tried to convert a Triang All Third..." 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Prometheus said: Admirable honesty! You could dine out on that story!!!! 1 hour ago, Mikkel said: I'm trying to picture Stephen at an extravagant dinner party, formal attire, champagne flowing, and then that smooth opening line: "I once tried to convert a Triang All Third..." I am available for after dinner speeches, for a modest fee. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Mikkel said: I'm trying to picture Stephen at an extravagant dinner party, formal attire, champagne flowing, and then that smooth opening line: "I once tried to convert a Triang All Third..." He’d have been on a hiding to nothing of course: they were all fiercely independent Primitive Methodists, even a whiff of Popery and the whole rake would be off into the Welsh hills in a flash..... Tony 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 19, 2021 Ha! I was for a while running the First Holy Communion catechesis for our parish. One girl had been baptised at a now-closed Primitive Methodist chapel - her mother, who was of South American origin if I remember correctly, had separated from her Welsh husband. I did eventually manage to obtain an affidavit confirming an entry in the chapel's register of baptisms. I think I went via the more-sophisticated Methodists to reach the appropriate Primitive contact. It avoided having to have the child conditionally baptised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 Wouldn't that have involved total immersion and a near-death experience? This might be dangerously straying, I’ll draw the religious excursion aspect of this posting to a close (unless anyone else wishes to continue with it!). Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nickwood Posted February 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) It’s easy to stray off topic when Clerics and Clerestories are so close together in the dictionary. Edited February 19, 2021 by nickwood 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted February 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 19/02/2021 at 09:48, Compound2632 said: Ha! I was for a while running the First Holy Communion catechesis for our parish. One girl had been baptised at a now-closed Primitive Methodist chapel - her mother, who was of South American origin if I remember correctly, had separated from her Welsh husband. I did eventually manage to obtain an affidavit confirming an entry in the chapel's register of baptisms. I think I went via the more-sophisticated Methodists to reach the appropriate Primitive contact. It avoided having to have the child conditionally baptised. Not sure I saw that episode of Monty Python? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Can't escape the religious connections I'm afraid. Some churches have clerestories, I have seen and used a number of Primitive Methods in converting Tri-ang clerestories and continuing the chapel theme, I do believe that I have filled a swear box or two whilst building them, particularly during roof alterations. I think that I have a V5 PBV, C10, D15 and an ex MSWJ brake. There's also a rumour that you can make a passable ex Cambrian coach out of the composites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 9 hours ago, MrWolf said: There's also a rumour that you can make a passable ex Cambrian coach out of the composites. Although almost everyone seems to refer to the non-brake Hornby clerestory coach as a "composite", all the compartments are the same size, so I suspect a full second. This does mean that the only way to create a proper composite is to splice in bits from the brake third, to obtain the different sized compartments appropriate for different classes. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Nick Holliday said: Although almost everyone seems to refer to the non-brake Hornby clerestory coach as a "composite", all the compartments are the same size, so I suspect a full second. As far as I can make out, the clerestories as originally issued by Triang carried no markings other than a number, 5017 in the case of the non-brake carriage, in an unprototypical location - left hand end of the lower panel. So to call it a second or a composite or even a first is a matter of intepretation, not something intended by Triang; the compartment spacing is simply set to give a whole number of compartments in the chosen body length. When the carriage was issued in faux-LNER teak, three compartments at one end were marked as firsts; when they came out in red, that went up to four. In Triang's defence, when Derby was building 40 ft bogie (non-clerestory) carriages in the late 1870s/early 1880s, there were brake thirds with 6'0"-long compartments but also a large batch of thirds with six 6'6"-compartments, a dimension not repeated until the big clerestory carriages of 1896 onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) On 11/03/2021 at 01:25, MrWolf said: There's also a rumour that you can make a passable ex Cambrian coach out of the composites. https://srmg.org.uk/cambrian-composite Whether it's passable or not, it's certainly pretty. Of course, all of the compartments are, incorrectly, exactly the same size, but I felt that a Composite would be more use than an All-First. Tony Edited March 15, 2021 by Prometheus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 That looks more than passable to me. I really ought to finish building mine, but in my defence, I got distracted by building a layout on which to run them! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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