RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted February 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2021 Does anyone have any experience of or suggestions for installing working Kadees on the Hornby 8F. I have a nice model with DCC sound installed but unless I can get some Kadees on it it will be a shelf queen...or even worse...sold... If I was just using it for single ended shunting I could use a brake van as a "go-between" but I'd like to use it for shunting, running round etc. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom D Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Hi Chris, Can you advise what type of Kadees you are using, #18 through #20, or a variation on the #5, do you have the Kadee height gauge? What is the condition of the Hornby 8F, I presume that it does not have an NEM pocket? A lot of questions, but it would help in what to propose for the 8F, I have modified quite a number of locos to suit Kadee couplers, but it all depends on how much you may be prepared to modify the 8F. If you haven't already I would strongly suggest getting the height gauge. Regards, Tom D 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 It has a screwed on front coupling and the Airfix style mount on the tender - Kadees can be fitted by adopting NEM types as shown in this article 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted February 19, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2021 39 minutes ago, Tom D said: Hi Chris, Can you advise what type of Kadees you are using, #18 through #20, or a variation on the #5, do you have the Kadee height gauge? What is the condition of the Hornby 8F, I presume that it does not have an NEM pocket? A lot of questions, but it would help in what to propose for the 8F, I have modified quite a number of locos to suit Kadee couplers, but it all depends on how much you may be prepared to modify the 8F. If you haven't already I would strongly suggest getting the height gauge. Regards, Tom D I'll use any Kadee I can - I have the full range in my stash and a couple of height gauges and I'm not constrained to #17-20s. I thought I could sort it but is "difficult" to be honest. No NEMs - its a very old design and I am prepared to modify if necessary - its not much use to me as it is frankly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted February 19, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said: It has a screwed on front coupling and the Airfix style mount on the tender - Kadees can be fitted by adopting NEM types as shown in this article Thanks - I will have a look but everything looked very tight...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom D Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I am not sure if you are familiar with the NEM converters, and whether it would suit your application; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7v09_Vohs If you have the full range of Kadee's, then it becomes a question of modifying the 8F in the tight space, to suit one of the Kadees. Another option I have used is the Hornby NEM adapter X6354, and just adding styrene to support the pocket. Best regards, Tom D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted February 20, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2021 18 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: It has a screwed on front coupling and the Airfix style mount on the tender - Kadees can be fitted by adopting NEM types as shown in this article Thanks - the cut off NEM was a good call. I've had a go and although not layout-tested yet this looks like it might work. As its good to see when people have actually found a post useful I offer some photos: Front has a 20 fitted to the top of the bogie using the existing hole with the nem legs gently filed to creat a recess for the screw plus a smaller screw to provide a firm fixing. After I'd fitted it to the loco I realised the bogie has a bit of give built in so I may go for a fitting slightly further back. The tender has a cut off #20 fitted to the existing housing. and a quick test on a magnet 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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