dj_crisp Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 58 minutes ago, Nick G said: Latest teaser from SLW SOMETHING IS HEATING UP (UNDER THE GRILLE) Another small taster picture of our new Class 25, showing ETHEL 3's (No. 97252) body fitted with an unpainted shoulder grille for clarity. This characteristic feature of the flat-sided 'Rats' has been photo-etched in stainless steel and carefully formed to the cantrail curvature. You should (just) be able to see the air filters through these on the finished models. Very nice. Do you know when these will be able to order online? Thanks Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 1 hour ago, dj_crisp said: Very nice. Do you know when these will be able to order online? Thanks Will From Sutton's Locomotive Workshop Facebook page: Sutton's Locomotive Workshop Hello Nick. As mentioned above, the updated webshop will go live very soon - e-commerce is not as much fun as playing trains or talking to customers. Just in testing phase at the moment and I will make a special post on here when it is live. We honestly don't mind (actually prefer) talking to customers and modellers! So use the polyoxybenzylmethylenglycolanhydride phone (bakelite bone) if you can't wait... Lines open 09.00 tomorrow 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Nick G said: Latest teaser from SLW SOMETHING IS HEATING UP (UNDER THE GRILLE) Another small taster picture of our new Class 25, showing ETHEL 3's (No. 97252) body fitted with an unpainted shoulder grille for clarity. This characteristic feature of the flat-sided 'Rats' has been photo-etched in stainless steel and carefully formed to the cantrail curvature. You should (just) be able to see the air filters through these on the finished models. Impressive super detail......very glad I decided on an SLW version now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magna Junction Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Are the standard locos DCC ready? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Magna Junction said: Are the standard locos DCC ready? Yes, they will have DCC sockets. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: If we are being really pedantic it should have a motor, just not one that makes it move Roy Being totally pedantic, weren't they there, just isolated ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Being totally pedantic, weren't they there, just isolated ? Yes, the Sulzer power unit was used to drive the EH generator but the traction motors were removed. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 24 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Yes, the Sulzer power unit was used to drive the EH generator but the traction motors were removed. Roy No EH generator fitted, power taken from main and the aux gen left alone to power aux motors. Hope you can get into the ETHEL cab as there are a few mods to the cab required vs normal cab. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 25/02/2021 at 08:32, milepost46 said: They look very impressive, but I model the Scottish Highlands and apart from Ayr/Motherwell areas they were not that common, so in some ways I'm a bit disappointed that it's not a 25/0 or early 25/2. It's going to be hard to justify this time. Seen at least one photo of 25109 on the West Highland 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Nick G said: From Sutton's Locomotive Workshop Facebook page: Sutton's Locomotive Workshop Hello Nick. As mentioned above, the updated webshop will go live very soon - e-commerce is not as much fun as playing trains or talking to customers. Just in testing phase at the moment and I will make a special post on here when it is live. We honestly don't mind (actually prefer) talking to customers and modellers! So use the polyoxybenzylmethylenglycolanhydride phone (bakelite bone) if you can't wait... Lines open 09.00 tomorrow just in case anyone wanted to now how to say it. 1 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 17 hours ago, slg said: If 25260 is ever done id have it like this please. Definitely some modifications required to the dynamics of that snowplough, either that or the driver took on a 10ft snowdrift! Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_sterling Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 12 hours ago, 25901 said: No EH generator fitted, power taken from main and the aux gen left alone to power aux motors. Hope you can get into the ETHEL cab as there are a few mods to the cab required vs normal cab. Could the Ethels still move around under their own power, or was a deliberate break made to the traction motors? Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Paul_sterling said: Could the Ethels still move around under their own power, or was a deliberate break made to the traction motors? Paul. As I posted above, traction motors were removed. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: As I posted above, traction motors were removed. Roy But these models will still be able to be driven? That’s a shame as I believe that to provide ETS the sulzer was run up to about half power and left at this rate for the service. If we will need to now double head instead of drag these units the sound will change. Unless the purchaser pulls his or her expensive model apart and starts removing gears I can’t see another way round it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, mallaig1983 said: But these models will still be able to be driven? That’s a shame as I believe that to provide ETS the sulzer was run up to about half power and left at this rate for the service. If we will need to now double head instead of drag these units the sound will change. Unless the purchaser pulls his or her expensive model apart and starts removing gears I can’t see another way round it. Hopefully SLW sound file will have the ETHEL mode option in it like Legomanbiffo does so that not matter how slow or fast it goes the sound doesn't change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, slg said: Hopefully SLW sound file will have the ETHEL mode option in it like Legomanbiffo does so that not matter how slow or fast it goes the sound doesn't change. Very interesting I didn't know the ETHEL was going to be offered with a sound fitted option ?? Assuming it's being hauled by 1or 2 EM2 fitted 37's it's unlikely you would hear any sounds coming from the ETHEL.... Edited March 3, 2021 by tractor_37260 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, slg said: Hopefully SLW sound file will have the ETHEL mode option in it like Legomanbiffo does so that not matter how slow or fast it goes the sound doesn't change. Thanks Sig. Hopefully yes but I think I’ll wait for some clarity from SLW on this before make a purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Roy Langridge said: No, SLW version is unpowered, Heljan is powered. Roy You sure Roy? I thought it was the other way round 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, mallaig1983 said: You sure Roy? I thought it was the other way round Oops - yes. My bad. Post deleted! Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted March 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, Roy Langridge said: Yes - as I have acknowledged and removed my post. Roy So have I 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, slg said: Hopefully SLW sound file will have the ETHEL mode option in it like Legomanbiffo does so that not matter how slow or fast it goes the sound doesn't change. Tricky one for sound, all the aux motors were left in and used. Even the compressors were left in so the ETHEL could be used in a static role (air required for engine control) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, tractor_37260 said: Very interesting I didn't know the ETHEL was going to be offered with a sound fitted option ?? Assuming it's being hauled by 1or 2 EM2 fitted 37's it's unlikely you would hear any sounds coming from the ETHEL.... Even if it isn’t offered with sound there will be folks who will want to fit it. Once fitted only a minority of functions will be of use to an ETHEL unit but functions that none the less will bring the beast to life. It will sound pretty good in my opinion on half beans being pulled out of Fort William (or any other station of choice) by a noisy tractor. You will hear the different sounds and tone of both. I just don’t want it to be powered. Powered as In the need to drive it. Edited March 3, 2021 by mallaig1983 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, mallaig1983 said: Even if it isn’t offered with sound there will be folks who will want to fit it. Once fitted only a minority of functions will be of use to an ETHEL unit but functions that none the less will bring the beast to life. It will sound pretty good in my opinion on half beans being pulled out of Fort William (or any other station of choice) by a noisy tractor. You will hear the different sounds and tone of both. I just don’t want it to be powered. Powered as In the need to drive it. Should be easy enough to make it un-powered if necessary by removing the drive shafts, and possibly the main bogie drive pinion gears. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted March 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, 25901 said: Tricky one for sound, all the aux motors were left in and used. Even the compressors were left in so the ETHEL could be used in a static role (air required for engine control) Don't forget ETHELs were often attached to stock long before the loco hauling the train - providing pre-heat. There are plenty of photos of stock in platforms with just an ETHEL at the head. Several on this page for starters: Derby Sulzers Roy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallaig1983 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Yes absolutely to both of the above. Both very good observations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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