RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2021 On 20/03/2021 at 17:45, Fat Controller said: Most MoD matériel, apart from vehicles, would be conveyed in anonymous vans and opens; 12t ones until the 1980s, then air-braked ones And this could, in a Pre-TOPS era, lead to wagons going astray. ISTR a story of a couple of vans apparently conveying 'significant ordnance' being reported "Away in error" from an MOD depot at Bramley. Just imagine they turn up in your siding. "What's in these, then, Bill? Oh cor lummy!" or similar expressions of - er - concern. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 On 26/03/2021 at 13:20, Fat Controller said: That's the one. Can't say I've ever seen one. Found the one I had photographed in Luton. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modavan/e87e17a18 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modavan/e87e17a20 I never saw another one, despite visiting several MOD and RoF sites. But there were a lot of such places in the 1980s. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 Hat tip to @hmrspaul for his pics of MOTA 95000 and 95004 PXP at Ludgershall as well. https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/modludgershall/h31E89B09 https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/modaramp Anyone ever seen anything like that in RTR? Did Cavalex Models ever release their MOD KFA / PFB Warflat wagon in OO scale? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 7 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Did Cavalex Models ever release their MOD KFA / PFB Warflat wagon in OO scale? They are on their way OO MOD KFA/PFB Warflat - Exclusive to Trains4U - Cavalex - RMweb Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Guys, I had, or viewed, a photo of an 08 on the exM&SWJR (several years back). Ive searched for it high and low and on line, but can't find it. Anyone seen similar, any ideas where such was published? Did I dream it!!?? Thanks in anticipation, CME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 On 10/04/2021 at 20:52, MarcD said: I have only just discovered this line, having been asked by a customer to make some 7mm stock for it. I took delivery of Vol.2 on Wednesday with in 48 hours I ordered vol.1 and I have been trying to lay my hands on vol.3. If anyone's interested the first kit will be a Brake van. it will be a full kit in 7mm and a 3D printed body in other scales. Marc Hi Marc, Sounds great - sadly all of mine is late steam early diesel 'what if' and 'what might have been' modelling. Good luck with your endeavours though. Best, CME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 hours ago, CME and Bottlewasher said: Guys, I had, or viewed, a photo of an 08 on the exM&SWJR (several years back). Ive searched for it high and low and on line, but can't find it. Anyone seen similar, any ideas where such was published? Did I dream it!!?? Thanks in anticipation, CME Hello @CME and Bottlewasher Could it have been the magazine article pics that @Neil Phillips mentioned? Quote I believe the articles (there was more than one) identified Class 08 D4122 as working the last freight service to Cirencester and Quote Class 08 D3358 on an M4 construction stone working climbing to SOT on 15/5/71; 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 Thanks to BRDatabase we can confirm they were in the vicinity. D4122 https://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=D&id=4122&loco=4122 Allocated to Swindon (82C) in 1962 D3358 https://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=locodata&type=D&id=3358&loco=3358 Reallocated to Swindon (82C) in 1969 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) Hi Keith, Thanks thats very kind of you to collate all of that info. I appreciate it. I'd forgotten about BRDdatabase - my new friend brain fog? - I think that really helps to narrow it down. As I mentioned before my dad was involved with the contract to unload the aggregate trains at the railhead. 4/5/71 ties in with my age at the time and the M4 stone traffic etc. Kindest regards, M. Edited April 19, 2021 by CME and Bottlewasher 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) Yow know, the MSWJR had some nice locomotives and rolling stock. I like the MSWJR 'Galloping Alice' Mogul but I also like the NBR-built L Class 4-4-0 the most! These would top the list of 4-4-0 locomotives! I've seen their GWR rebuilds and too be honest, I'm not a big fan of them - their original North British original conditions even with GWR milk churn safety valves make this engines something amazing! In all honesty, I would love to own a fully-built RTR model of one but they are only available in kit-built form and I'm not that good at kit-building. For now, kit-bashing would have to be my only option unless I was to find somebody clever enough to actually make a 3D-printed body of it to stick onto an RTR chassis, then that would be very nice. This thread has been of interest to me and I hope one day we will have RTR rolling stock and locomotives based upon MSWJR stock soon. The striking MSWJR red livery reminds me of the Furness Railway Indian Red and the Midland Railway Crimson Lake. It's a shame that there aren't that much ex-MSWJR rolling stock around anymore but that doesn't stop the preservation movement, though. They are one of my Top 10 4-4-0 steam locomotives. Edited April 24, 2021 by LNWR18901910 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 23/04/2021 at 21:51, LNWR18901910 said: Yow know, the MSWJR had some nice locomotives and rolling stock. I like the MSWJR 'Galloping Alice' Mogul but I also like the NBR-built L Class 4-4-0 the most! These would top the list of 4-4-0 locomotives! Just found a pic of one of the ex-M&SWJR 2-4-0s still in use on the Lambourn branch About a 1/3rd of the way down this page. Ex-M&SWJR 2-4-0 at the terminus heading the 4:15pm from Newbury in October 1948. https://www.lambournvalleyrailway.info/lambourn-2.html Rumour has it (here on RMWeb) that Nu-Cast models of this are available via email dave@sefinecast.co.uk or Brian at sales@branchlines.com Is there any substance to these rumours? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, KeithMacdonald said: Just found a pic of one of the ex-M&SWJR 2-4-0s still in use on the Lambourn branch About a 1/3rd of the way down this page. Ex-M&SWJR 2-4-0 at the terminus heading the 4:15pm from Newbury in October 1948. https://www.lambournvalleyrailway.info/lambourn-2.html Rumour has it (here on RMWeb) that Nu-Cast models of this are available via email dave@sefinecast.co.uk or Brian at sales@branchlines.com Is there any substance to these rumours? Thta's interesting! Worth a find, too! Say, would anyone be modelling the M&SWJR? I might. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Glad I found this thread. Back in March I ordered a copy of Steph Gillett’s ‘The Midland & South Western Junction Railway’ from Amazon, and it’s a very good read. The historical background is fascinating; it strikes me that the builders of the railway went for cheap above speed above quality, such was the urge to get a route into Southampton Docks as quickly as possible to allow the passage of goods from the Midlands via Southampton to Europe and beyond. I noticed there was discussion about when was the last time a train ran over what remains of the MSWJR to Ludgershall; this book mentions that in 2017 an army vehicle was taken from Ludgershall through the Channel Tunnel to mainland Europe. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 Yes, the Ludgershall branch line lingers on. e.g. the flatbed wagon delivery, 15th October 2020 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted August 24, 2021 Author Share Posted August 24, 2021 And then this in March 2021 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 I've just been told there's a nice little collection of pics of M&SWJR locos on SmugMug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted November 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 24/08/2021 at 23:59, KeithMacdonald said: And then this in March 2021 The gardens on the left as the Loco does it's run round, were the Rawlings Coal Yard (my great and great great grandfathers). Locos always used to run round there, and push the stock in, I've hitched a lift in the odd one back in the late 1960's early 70's. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 25/03/2021 at 20:06, hmrspaul said: No as mentioned they had their own design, longer than the BR palvans with an offset door. I have the odd photo but apparently haven't posted them on my site. @hmrspaul - would they have been similar to the Royal Ordance Factory vans? https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brpalvan Quote 18871 ex BR Palvan BR Clasp brake auxiliary suspension Internal use @ ROF Glascoed 92-08-21 18872 ex BR Palvan BR Morton – RCH vacuum brake auxiliary suspension Internal use @ ROF Glascoed 92-08-21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, KeithMacdonald said: @hmrspaul - would they have been similar to the Royal Ordance Factory vans? https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brpalvan Sorry I'm confused about what you are asking. This is the MODA palvan https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modavan/e87e17a18 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modavan/e87e17a20 goodness knows what it was doing in Luton yard Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 12:06, hmrspaul said: Sorry I'm confused about what you are asking. This is the MODA palvan https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modavan/e87e17a18 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/modavan/e87e17a20 goodness knows what it was doing in Luton yard Paul Hi Paul, Interesting - thank you. When was that photo taken - may I ask - was it October 1979 (looks later livery to me?). I couldn't tell from the photo info. As always many thanks in anticipation of your comments and wisdom. ATVB Martin. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted June 6, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, CME and Bottlewasher said: When was that photo taken - may I ask - was it October 1979 (looks later livery to me?). I couldn't tell from the photo info Both photos say Luton, 14/10/79 Edited June 6, 2022 by keefer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 18 hours ago, keefer said: Both photos say Luton, 14/10/79 Hi Keefer, Thanks, I thought as much. IIRC they were written in an American format. ATB, M. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 hours ago, daifly said: Year, month, day is a Japanese format. American is month, day, year. Dave Year month day is how to make sure it is possible to sort photographs by date order. Nothing else works! Goodness you people. The date is in English on the photograph. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daifly Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 hours ago, hmrspaul said: Year month day is how to make sure it is possible to sort photographs by date order. Nothing else works! I use the same system too but it's still Japanese! Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 09/06/2022 at 19:28, daifly said: I use the same system too but it's still Japanese! It's preferred in Japan, and it's also an ISO standard to avoid ambiquity for international useage. So no confusion between UK dd-mm and US mm-dd formats. Routinely used for date-time-stamped files. https://www.iso.org/iso-8601-date-and-time-format.html 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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