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2 hours ago, SRman said:

 

Did the 1400/1450 have dynamic brakes? Only three of the 1460 class which followed had dynamic brakes, with the prominent angled vents on the short hoods ahead of the cab.

I realise these were different to the NZ types in a number of ways, but I also thought that just possibly the bogie designs may give some clues as to what was on the NZ locos.

The Queensland loco's didn't have Dynamic brakes. the NZR ones did

 

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Hi Hayley, 

 

The RENFE had one EMD GL12. I don't know how similar to the G12 type it was but here are a couple of links that may be of use. 

 

 https://trenesytiempos.blogspot.com/2018/06/las-tracciones-termica-y-electrica-en_20.html

 

http://www.forotrenes.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=64247&hilit=renfe+1401

 

Both are in Spanish but Google can deal with that! If the GL12 was similar enough to the G12 then I'm sure a few Spanish modellers would be interested. There has been a brass model produced of this engine but I think that was a while ago.

 

https://www.alejandromodelismoferroviario.com/catalogo/1401/140110.html

 

I also noticed that there is a G12 on Shapeways. 

 

https://www.shapeways.com/product/K8M28CEJU/g-m-emd-g12-locomotive-ho-scale-1-87-allbody?optionId=64642322&li=marketplace

 

I don't know how accurate it is and I would expect you would have already searched for existing ones. 

 

I look forward to seeing how you get on.

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Thanks for all the input....

The first CAD rendering has now been finished and we've sent off the the CAD to the client to review. Here's a quick look. NOTE: It only includes the CAD for the chassis and the 3D printed parts. The grilles and handrails are not included in the CAD.

We'll be doing both versions of the loco for the client. This is just the first, though I am not sure if it's the earlier version or later version.

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On 19/04/2021 at 04:28, MGR Hooper! said:

Thanks for all the input....

The first CAD rendering has now been finished and we've sent off the the CAD to the client to review. Here's a quick look. NOTE: It only includes the CAD for the chassis and the 3D printed parts. The grilles and handrails are not included in the CAD.

We'll be doing both versions of the loco for the client. This is just the first, though I am not sure if it's the earlier version or later version.

1594219865_KiwiRailDAClass.jpg.cb98f2dad49bd250d8c4f002a0656f79.jpg
 

What you have modelled is the Phase 3 series (1440-1511) on the original fabricated bogies that were originally fitted to the Phase 1 series (1400-1429). The doors on the short hood are incorrect for this phase of locomotive. Also there is no recess for the hand brake which would be after the third hood door in the long hood behind the cab. See included picture

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5 hours ago, Andrew1471 said:

What you have modelled is the Phase 3 series (1440-1511) on the original fabricated bogies that were originally fitted to the Phase 1 series (1400-1429). The doors on the short hood are incorrect for this phase of locomotive. Also there is no recess for the hand brake which would be after the third hood door in the long hood behind the cab. See included picture

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Thank you. We'll make the necessary modifications. Our client hadn't spotted those. We've been working from a a lot of different pics.

 

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12 hours ago, MGR Hooper! said:


Thank you. We'll make the necessary modifications. Our client hadn't spotted those. We've been working from a a lot of different pics.

 

To try make things easier try to stick to photos of numbers for the phases being modeled:

 

Phase 1: 1400-1429

Phase 2: 1430-1439

Phase 3: 1440-1511

Phase 4: 1512-1545

 

Happy to help!!

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On 29/03/2021 at 09:09, Andrew1471 said:

Hello,

 

May I be of help? I am a volunteer that belongs to the group that owns the 3 DA's above. What details are you specifically after? I can take measurements and photos as required. Is this project for model railways or for a train simulator?

 

Cheers,

Andrew 


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2 hours ago, PaulRhB said:

The grille on the short nose appears to be offset to one corner rather than filling the whole panel in the photo above? 
 


The grille is more towards the front and therefore offset. It doesn't fill the entire short hood.

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1 hour ago, MGR Hooper! said:


The grille is more towards the front and therefore offset. It doesn't fill the entire short hood.

Sorry I meant the grille on the plate ;) on your renderings it fills the whole plate, the bit highlighted below seems to be wider than the top flat area. Just something that grabbed my attention, (knowing nothing about anything on these apart from there was a Canadian version) The loco photos seem to differ from the drawing too on this. 
There also doesn’t seem to be a flat surround where I’ve put the red lines, the grille appears to be right to the edge?

 

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On 12/03/2021 at 06:18, MGR Hooper! said:

Hey,

We were contacted a few weeks ago by a client who wanted us to design a KiwiRail EMD G12 diesel loco. Whilst the client could provide most of the information possible, he hasn't been able to provide us with as many photos as we'd like from various angles and your regular search on Google turns up few images, most not of great quality and almost all in the same angle.

 

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We need a little more help. If anyone has more images of this locomotive (from different angles) or has any links to a good source for images, please let us know. You can do so by either replying to this thread or sending me a PM.

 

We're specifically looking for detailed images of the bogies (client says that there were two types) and images from other angles (all the images we managed to get are all from the same angles as the images we just posted in the thread.

Any help will be appreciated.

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Hayley

Hi Hayley, The Da class, as they were/are known here in New Zealand, had 3 types of bogies. The first being Fabricated, the second "Clyde" bogies and last the "Dofasco" bogie/truck (Pic of Dofasco truck below). Please feel free to email me if you need anymore info. Cheers David.

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7 minutes ago, NZRDaFan said:

Hi Hayley, The Da class, as they were/are known here in New Zealand, had 3 types of bogies. The first being Fabricated, the second "Clyde" bogies and last the "Dofasco" bogie/truck (Pic of Dofasco truck below). Please feel free to email me if you need anymore info. Cheers David.

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Hi David,

Thanks for reaching out. But we've already completed the CAD work and sent the files over to the client.

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