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'Across the Yard' and now, 'On Shed'.


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And now it's a bit soil coloured.

 

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There was always going to be a crane in the yard, I've had a D&S one for many years, for the last 11 years it's been on Felton Lane, or at least the base was, the actual crane was in a plastic box with other detail bits for the layout... no it wasn't, I searched everywhere but nothing, I'd already taken the base off so I went back with a torch and shone it in between the baseboards and there, in the corner, in a bush, a bit covered in cobwebs and slightly damaged was the crane. So it needs a bit of repair, some paint and a bit of fine chain and it should do the job. 

 

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I also recovered the loading gauge and tidied it up and painted it, not 100% sure of the colour scheme but chocolate base, buff above and black ironwork looks ok to me. 

 

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The goods shed, as we know is a Hornby resin cast model based on Goathland, its basically a standard Prosser design of the 1860s and 70s, it's just that it looks too big. Especially when the buildings that I'm placing down the end were placed on the board.

 

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So a look in NER Architecture vol 2 and inside the front cover is a drawing of the goods shed proposed for Egton Bridge but never built as the site is built up land. The drawing, made to fit the page, is to a scale of 3.166mm/ft so a big of calculating and reference to the few measurements on the drawing a profile of the end was cut out and blue tacked to the end of the shed. There's quite a difference! 

 

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There's also a huge difference in the size of the door, I had thought of cutting 10mm off the bottom of the shed but that would leave the cart door and the windows way too low.

 

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The only way to go is to build my own using the drawing in NER Architecture. I'll build it in dressed stone, partly as it's easier to get good corners than with rock-face, partly as I have some and partly as Hexham shed was built in dressed stone. It will also get a canopy that is a continuation of the roof rather than clagged on the side. 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:

Perhaps the Hornby model could be passed on to an S scale modeller? Though they'd probably throw up their hands in horror at the idea of using an RTP item - it's not their ethos.

I had thought it was nearer S. 

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I suspect that Hornby may have increased the scale to fit all their rolling stock. Eg their signals are over sized, the bridges have a large clearance. It is the play value rather than being correct to scale. Hence the Hornby would rather fudge the size than have the average modeller complain that their rolling stock won't fit! 

 

There is also the issue that the drawing may have been screwed up on the scaling. I have found a building I built 8 years ago was "shrunk" on the drawings compared to the written dimensions. So the estimator had a screwy problem that we were going through too much in materials compared to his take off... which had been scaled! 

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8 minutes ago, DougN said:

I suspect that Hornby may have increased the scale to fit all their rolling stock. Eg their signals are over sized, the bridges have a large clearance. It is the play value rather than being correct to scale. Hence the Hornby would rather fudge the size than have the average modeller complain that their rolling stock won't fit! 

 

There is also the issue that the drawing may have been screwed up on the scaling. I have found a building I built 8 years ago was "shrunk" on the drawings compared to the written dimensions. So the estimator had a screwy problem that we were going through too much in materials compared to his take off... which had been scaled! 

 

There was no increase in size for rolling stock as when I got it all the doors were solid, I had to cut them out! 

 

The drawing in the book has a scale on it plus some bits are dimensioned so I'm pretty certain that one is correct, these goods sheds weren't all the same size, Lealholm for instance is quite a bit narrower, I did measure it many years ago but can't find my drawing anywhere! 

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We now have a crane installed in the yard. I decided on chocolate as a colour, the same as used on buildings, I've not found any evidence for this but the colour was used extensively and, although you should never model a model, the crane on 'Lowburn Park' is painted in this style.  

 

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Looks like we've picked a busy moment as 1333 has arrived to do a bit of shunting. 

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Also done some work on the timber buildings that are to go along the end of the yard, these were originally painted in LNER green and cream and very heavily weathered, they are now in chocolate and cream and will be kept a lot cleaner although there will be a bit of dirt. 

 

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1 hour ago, Benjamin Brady said:

Good Afternoon, 

 

I really like what you have done with backdating the J27, I quite fancy a go at this myself. Just out of interest who did you source the decals from and the etched plates?

 

Cheers 

 

Benjamin 

 

The transfers are from HMRS sheet 4A LNER yellow, you need to be careful what number you choose as the NER used a flat topped 3 and the LNER a round one, I realised this after I decided to model Class 398 No 1333... it is possible to get close with the top half of a 7 and the bottom of a 3 but it was a lot of work. 

 

The cab side number plates are the ones that come with Fox B17 nameplates, I've managed to acquire a few of these over the years as unfortunately they only come with the nameplates. the ones on the sandbox/splashers are of unknown origin but as they had more text on them they are representing the North British Loco builders plates, correct ones are available from Narrow Planet. 

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I’m loving this thread and finding your work quite inspirational and I’d like to ask a question about your re-gauging of the Oxford ‘J27’? The idea of doing something in EM or P4 is appealing but I’ve not taken the plunge.  Please excuse my ignorance on such matters but did the re-gauging require new wheels and a new chassis or can it be done with replacement axels? 
 

Many thanks

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13 minutes ago, Suffolk Dave said:

WF


I’m loving this thread and finding your work quite inspirational and I’d like to ask a question about your re-gauging of the Oxford ‘J27’? The idea of doing something in EM or P4 is appealing but I’ve not taken the plunge.  Please excuse my ignorance on such matters but did the re-gauging require new wheels and a new chassis or can it be done with replacement axels? 
 

Many thanks

 

The wheels are just pulled out on this, the flanges aren't too big for EM, P4 would definitely need more work. I did have to grind a lot of material from the inside of the splashers though.

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16 hours ago, Worsdell forever said:

 

The wheels are just pulled out on this, the flanges aren't too big for EM, P4 would definitely need more work. I did have to grind a lot of material from the inside of the splashers though.

So, you didn't need to replace the axels? Would you say that applies to most modern RTR locos? 

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2 hours ago, Suffolk Dave said:

So, you didn't need to replace the axels? Would you say that applies to most modern RTR locos? 

 

Original wheels and axles, they're small axles, 2mm ish, didn't measure them. Don't do a lot of regauging, there's not a lot RTR that I want, @pete55 is the man to ask about converting RTR. 

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1 hour ago, Worsdell forever said:

 

Original wheels and axles, they're small axles, 2mm ish, didn't measure them. Don't do a lot of regauging, there's not a lot RTR that I want, @pete55 is the man to ask about converting RTR. 

Thanks. What you're saying is rather encouraging and making me think that a leap into EM might not be as daunting as I imagined it would be! 

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