RMweb Premium Kris Posted March 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Anyone got a big garden and some spare time on their hands? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3817798771621080/ Edited March 17, 2021 by Kris different link tried Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Item has gone or been withdrawn..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted March 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2021 Still showing for me, but it's possible I'm seeing a cached page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) That’s really strange.....I wonder if it’s the link? This is what comes up for me. I tried changing the 60km radius to 500km but got the same result. Edited March 17, 2021 by gordon s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I can't get through on the link either ................... looks like the body of that van's going to need more restoration than could be justified for a non-passenger-carrying vehicle ..... maybe the chassis will end up under a 'grounded' passenger coach somewhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Looking at the link the only sensible options as mentioned above will be to scrap the tinwork body and add a vintage body. Or even do like we have done with PMV's at Middleton and reskin the sides and ends, recover roof and build a 4 wheel coach from it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Is that price real? £111,111? Can’t believe what appears to be a rusting hulk is over £100k...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted March 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, gordon s said: Is that price real? £111,111? Can’t believe what appears to be a rusting hulk is over £100k...... Yes, that was the first thing I noticed. His definition 'sensible offers' is hopefully more realistic than his opening price. Unless that is the going rate for a rotting CCT? I know I'm not that familiar with the preservation scene, but surely that's on the ambitious side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, gordon s said: Is that price real? £111,111? Can’t believe what appears to be a rusting hulk is over £100k...... Bespoke weathering to that standard usually results in high prices, it's also got three links fitted. 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted March 17, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2021 I've just tried a different link. Many it will work. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3817798771621080/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 His wife's told him "it has to go", but its his pet project, so he's put it up for sale at a price that nobody will ever pay, using a flaky link, thereby ensuring that he gets to keep it. 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods_of_Revolution Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Seems like the sides will need completely replacing. I'd imagine the underframe will need a lot of rot cutting out of it and new sections spliced in. It would be cheaper to build one from scratch than buy, transport and restore this one. It's not even like it's a vehicle of much historical significance either. There's probably £12000 worth of scrap metal, but it's not worth much more than that realistically. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 13 hours ago, gordon s said: Is that price real? £111,111? Can’t believe what appears to be a rusting hulk is over £100k...... I would think it's just that you have to put something in the box or it won't accept it. £100,000 plus is getting on for ex-mainline locomotive prices. Doesn't look like there's much wrong with it. Seen far worse restored. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizz Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 This is a genuine plea for a dod of realism.....Scrap It! For pity’s sake please someone scrap it....Scrap weighs in at £205 per ton at present. At least then use the money for restoring something with a realistic change of ever being restored. Otherwise the ‘usual suspects’ will buy it and it’ll be dumped at the ‘Usual Railways’,....along with loads of vehicles in similar or worse condition, where the ‘Preservation Taliban’ will prevent anyone ever getting rid of it....because it is soooooooooo valuable and irreplaceable. Preservation is full of ‘Chicken Sheds’ on PCV or CCT frames. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I think that the 4th PMV bought a few months ago during lock down including transport cost about 1/10th of the figure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Noting the original advert - seller states item is rare - only ULTRA RARE (note important its written in caps and bold) items can be sold at 10x their normal realistic value. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus1 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 The IWSR are always on the look-out for 4 wheel chassis for their ongoing vintage 4 wheel coach restorations, but not at that price. Last time I looked scrap steel was about £40 a tonne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 hours ago, woodenhead said: Noting the original advert - seller states item is rare - Well, it's unique ............. the only one in the whole wide universe with exactly that pattern of tin worm. ............ and if you could persuade a potential buyer that it was created by Tracey Emin you could add a couple of noughts to the price. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 IOW would not be interested even if free. Wrong type of chassis. This sort of vehicle has limited preservation value, yes desirable to preserve some of each type but limited commercial use, useful as a store but needs to justify its maintenance & siding space. However it looks quite restorable if someone wants to put the time & effort in to it. Value "as is" would be scrap less transport & dismantling. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, IWCR said: ........ yes desirable to preserve some of each type ......... A quick tot up on the Carriage Register shown a few more than one extant ............. something like fifty seven ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: A quick tot up on the Carriage Register shown a few more than one extant ............. something like fifty seven ! They need to all be brought together at Crewe and have them placed back in the old south end parcels roads to celebrate their 70th anniversary. Also requires all the roof to be put back, the track, source a grotty 08 and find an assortment of Brutes and Royal Mail trolleys too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Scotian Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I assumed the lister didn't want to put a price. GBP 111,111 appears very much as a placeholder. 123,456, but mashing the 1 key a little more... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) When I click on the link it’s amusingly listed as ‘Vehicles > BMW X3.’ No idea why. Speaking of which - could you construct an end loading platform and use it as a garage? Edited March 19, 2021 by 009 micro modeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 17 hours ago, Grizz said: This is a genuine plea for a dod of realism.....Scrap It! For pity’s sake please someone scrap it....Scrap weighs in at £205 per ton at present. At least then use the money for restoring something with a realistic change of ever being restored. Otherwise the ‘usual suspects’ will buy it and it’ll be dumped at the ‘Usual Railways’,....along with loads of vehicles in similar or worse condition, where the ‘Preservation Taliban’ will prevent anyone ever getting rid of it....because it is soooooooooo valuable and irreplaceable. Preservation is full of ‘Chicken Sheds’ on PCV or CCT frames. What a load of infantile nonsense. I also think the term "Preservation Taliban" is extremely offensive and pretty disgraceful to be honest. Do you really think money from one project gets used for another project when that project finishes or fails? Better than some items supposed to be in the National Collection. In fact before they were restored the BR Suburbans at Llangollen was in a similar state of disrepair and it's a common problem with BR coaches. The NNR quad arts were virtually firewood a few years ago. If it was up to you they would have been burnt. Both sets are now award winning examples of saving our national heritage. I really do get fed up with uninformed people telling others what to do with their property. Usually the "scrap the lot" brigade that never put a penny into railway preservation but constantly moan about things that don't even affect them. Don't bother replying as i'm not interested. jason 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 It's £1500 now. Mrs W says I'm not allowed. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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