jsp3970 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Hopefully someone can answer this, and provide proof if the answer is yes. Did any coach, EMU or DMU carry the NE prefix? My father, who worked for BR in the 1960's and 1970's says he never saw anything with the NE prefix but I have seen comments that a few vehicles did. I have searched the web and found nothing, but of course that doesn't mean there was not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 DMUs definitely. Don't forget the NER was shortlived. I think it had well gone by the late 1960s. There was also some with GE for Great Eastern Section. One here. https://www.steve-banks.org/prototype-and-traffic/390-lner-thompson-gangwayed-1 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 At least a couple of threads mentioning NE prefixes on here, one with a photo of a Mk1, top post of page 2: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/126628-50-years-since-the-end-of-steam-in-ne-england/page/2/ and one about DMU cars with NE prefixes: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsp3970 Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, eastwestdivide said: At least a couple of threads mentioning NE prefixes on here, one with a photo of a Mk1, top post of page 2: Thanks for the links! I had found some mention in other threads of DMU's but could not find any photos. As for the Mk1 that is certainly interesting and I have passed that on to my father (he was the LMR coach inspector so there is not much he missed when it came to coaches!) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 6 hours ago, jsp3970 said: Thanks for the links! I had found some mention in other threads of DMU's but could not find any photos. As for the Mk1 that is certainly interesting and I have passed that on to my father (he was the LMR coach inspector so there is not much he missed when it came to coaches!) If you trawl Flickr you'll come across pictures of MK1's with NE prefix. Not that uncommon. I haven't got Longworth's tome on MK1 numbering but I'm sure there are plenty of specific examples in there. https://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image.aspx?f=1&guid=a8ef7792-6e12-4fa1-a684-0b5bdb9441f7&gid=3 Certainly NE24199 and NE24551 made it to the US where they remain in original untouched (although deteriorating externally) form. Regards Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RichardT Posted March 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2021 The NE Region wasn't "short-lived". It took over my dad's railway employment in 1948 and lasted 20 years until replaced by the merged Eastern & NE Regions in 1968. At that point the regional HQ moved from London to York (following the construction of Hudson House to give extra office capacity in York), and I gained a lot of Cockney schoolfriends. Still a significant amount of NE-prefixed DMUs to be seen when I started spotting in 1974, but I didn't pay attention to carriages then as I didn't spot rolling stock. Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) There were many coaching stock vehicles which carried the @NE@ prefix through to the late 1960s. . The Railway Observer published details ( In a couple of 1965 ? issues ) of vehicles sighted carrying the 'NE' prefix. . There was also stock prefixed "GE" . I think the practice ceased shortly afterwards, with "E" replacing "NE" or "GE" as stock was repainted. Brian R Edited March 24, 2021 by br2975 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 From memory I think the Trix Trans-Pennine units are numbered with the NE prefix, presumably the prototype was too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted March 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2021 The TP units that I rode on while visting my big sister who lived in Selby at the time were definitely given NE prefix vehicle numbers, and IIRC from the Ian Allan Combined Volumes the 110s were as well. This was in 1966 and 1967, and at that time Selby and many other stations had the orange NE region signage. Again IIRC, and I may well not RC, the GE prefix was limited to emus. The Tyneside emus had NE prefixes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, RichardT said: The NE Region wasn't "short-lived". It took over my dad's railway employment in 1948 and lasted 20 years until replaced by the merged Eastern & NE Regions in 1968. At that point the regional HQ moved from London to York (following the construction of Hudson House to give extra office capacity in York), and I gained a lot of Cockney schoolfriends. Still a significant amount of NE-prefixed DMUs to be seen when I started spotting in 1974, but I didn't pay attention to carriages then as I didn't spot rolling stock. Richard Of course it was. Especially if you look at the length of time from a historical context. Very short lived compared to the others. Less than half the length of time as they lasted from 1948 until 1992. It lasted shorter than the time from the Millennium celebrations to now. That was virtually yesterday in chronological time. It's less than twenty years. I've got socks older than that. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, The Johnster said: The TP units that I rode on while visting my big sister who lived in Selby at the time were definitely given NE prefix vehicle numbers, and IIRC from the Ian Allan Combined Volumes the 110s were as well. This was in 1966 and 1967, and at that time Selby and many other stations had the orange NE region signage. Again IIRC, and I may well not RC, the GE prefix was limited to emus. The Tyneside emus had NE prefixes. Nope. I posted a link to an ex LNER Thompson coach with the GE prefix above. D329 TK No GE13827E in Maroon so after 1956 https://www.steve-banks.org/prototype-and-traffic/390-lner-thompson-gangwayed-1 The GE prefix was very common as many of the carriages were shorter than usual as there were restrictions on some lines in East Anglia. They also moved some of the North Eastern Railway coaches down to replace older stock as they were also short. They travelled far. I recently found a photograph of train of them at Llangollen on an excursion from the East Coast. All Gresley 52 footers. However it was a section rather than a region. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 B.R. Mk.1 stock carrying the "NE" prefix included examples of RUO, RSO, RKB, RMB, RB, FO, SO, BSO, FK, CK, BCK, SK, BSK., SLSTP, . In addition the following types of Mk.1 stock, at least, were still carrying "GE" prefixes in late 1965:- SO, FK, SK and BSK . Most types of DMU allocated to the North Eastern Region were prefixed "NE" - maybe not all, but most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsp3970 Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 11 hours ago, The Johnster said: The TP units that I rode on while visting my big sister who lived in Selby at the time were definitely given NE prefix vehicle numbers, and IIRC from the Ian Allan Combined Volumes the 110s were as well. This was in 1966 and 1967, and at that time Selby and many other stations had the orange NE region signage. Again IIRC, and I may well not RC, the GE prefix was limited to emus. The Tyneside emus had NE prefixes. One of the things I checked before starting this topic, which seems to have grown while I was asleep, was the Tyneside EMU's and all the photos I saw showed them having both an E prefix and suffix. I would have thought that if anything would have had an NE prefix it would have been them since they were confined to a specific operational area. But now I have a follow up question. Was there any pre-nationalization coaches that had a NE prefix and a lettered suffix such as the photo that 'Steamport Southport' posted of GE13827E? I have also seen a photo in a book on Mk1's of a GE prefixed Mk1, I can't think of the name of the book right now! 13 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: From memory I think the Trix Trans-Pennine units are numbered with the NE prefix, presumably the prototype was too. Yes and that fooled me as I remembered seeing a photo of a Trans-Pennine unit with a NE prefix but I was remembering a photo of a Trix model! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I can remember seeing EMU carriages on their way into Liverpool Street in the early 60s with a GE prefix. Can't remember if there was any suffix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, jsp3970 said: I have also seen a photo in a book on Mk1's of a GE prefixed Mk1, I can't think of the name of the book right now! P.63 of the 1999 reprint of the Parkin Mk1 coaches book has a photo of BSK GE34353 in lined maroon as the last coach overhauled at Doncaster. No date given but mentions the body end steps have been removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 6 hours ago, keefer said: P.63 of the 1999 reprint of the Parkin Mk1 coaches book has a photo of BSK GE34353 in lined maroon as the last coach overhauled at Doncaster. No date given but mentions the body end steps have been removed. Mk1 coaches were overhauled at Doncaster well after GE34353. MK1s and DMUs carried NE in both 3" and 4" lettering/numbering. Al Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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