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TRS Trains real steam generator, a different option to the system used on Bournemouth West? 

 

Hornby Mag video. 


Scale: 'OO' and 'O' gauge Price: from £100 (excluding decoder) Email: [email protected]

 

edit after confirmation that it’s a different system to the Bournemouth West group one. 

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It’s certainly better than oil ones but a bit fierce at a stand. I assume it’s a fan and I think I’d reduce the power to that a fair bit. Another step forward though. 

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Hmm.  Not impressed tbh.  There are some good points, but the apparent inability to operate on DC would scupper it for my purposes.  The steam effect is still far too thin and wispy, and there is no attempt to show it issuing under pressure from the safety valves, or leaking from the various places it leaks from in real life.  I like the muck spread realistically on the loco roof, but tha apart it's all a bit gimmicky.  It looks nothing like the steam water vapour that is emitted in large quantities from real steam locomotives.  Like the oil based 'steam generators', it is probably ok as diesel fumes, and those can be used with DC..

 

Realistic affordable steam fx for small locos, I'm talking W4 in 00, that are acceptable in an indoor home environment and do not cause unpleasant odours or need cleaning up after use are the Holy Grail, and will need that amount of quest to achieve.  I applaud the effort, though.

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Not asking much then?

 

I thought it was impressive, but as much for the sound, which seemed better than I’ve heard on a steam loco before, with more realistic ‘drift’ with the regular almost closed, as for the exhaust.

 

It did look as if the driver had the blower on all the time it was stationary.

 

As you say, it would look pretty good on a diesel, and I’d rather have a slightly moist layout than one covered with a thin film of oil (which is what happened the one time I tried the ‘smoke’ on a loco).

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On 25/03/2021 at 21:22, Nearholmer said:

 

 

It did look as if the driver had the blower on all the time it was stationary.

 

As you say, it would look pretty good on a diesel, and I’d rather have a slightly moist layout than one covered with a thin film of oil (which is what happened the one time I tried the ‘smoke’ on a loco).

A Deltic comes to mind.

 

if you can make it blue.. then a Western.

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On 25/03/2021 at 17:36, PaulRhB said:

It’s certainly better than oil ones but a bit fierce at a stand. I assume it’s a fan and I think I’d reduce the power to that a fair bit. Another step forward though. 

 

I don't believe it does use a fan. It uses an ultrasonic "exciter" disc to atomise water into fine droplets. Been conducting a few experiments of my own with this technology. 

 

Bruce 

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I would just like to make it absolutely clear that this is NOT the system used on Bournemouth West exhibition layout. Paul Doust is the inventor of the system we use and has successfully applied to patent it. 
It is my opinion that the system used on Bournemouth West and New Kensal Green is, in fact, far superior and has been refined and tested, under exhibition conditions over a number of years.

 

Roger Sunderland 

Bournemouth West operating team

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57 minutes ago, Roger Sunderland said:

I would just like to make it absolutely clear that this is NOT the system used on Bournemouth West exhibition layout. Paul Doust is the inventor of the system we use and has successfully applied to patent it. 
It is my opinion that the system used on Bournemouth West and New Kensal Green is, in fact, far superior and has been refined and tested, under exhibition conditions over a number of years.

 

Roger Sunderland 

Bournemouth West operating team

Thanks Roger, is there any likelihood of it becoming available like this? 

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Like all things model, gravity and mass don't scale. So there is no realistic likelihood there could ever be 'like the real thing' steam, as much as there is little chance of there being 'like the real thing' water, or sound. We can only approximate such things (sometimes with better results for a given thing than others). As our models are by definition scaled approximations, then so must any additional effects we apply to them. Taking that into consideration, I think this system (like the one for Bmth West) is pretty good. Would I bother with it? If I had very deep lottery-win-funded pockets, maybe, but barring such a win, this, like fitting sound decoders to everything, will likely remain a distant dream.

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22 minutes ago, roundhouse said:

Are you thinking for your Manning & Wardles fitted with EDM sound?:D:D

I know you’ve fitted sound to yours so I’ll wait for the suggestions ;)  Unless they are some sort of Tardis I doubt it!

:lol:

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5 hours ago, PaulRhB said:

Thanks Roger, is there any likelihood of it becoming available like this? 

 Hi Paul. I think there is every possibility that the system will become available but it may not follow the TRS format of adapting people’s existing models. 
Paul is aware of this thread now so it’s up to him if he wishes to comment further, we are only a showcase for his invention.

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Ultrasonic discs to excite water have been available on model boats for years. Maplins used to sell them for less than a tenner. The clever part here is getting a vibrating disc large enough to fit into a small space and to mask the noise of the vibration. The downside of this system is once blown clear of the chimney, the vapour being cold tends not to rise but to gravitate.

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