justin Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Can anyone tell me what was accessed through the door in the rear of the bunker on the BR Standard 4 tank locos? I have never noticed it until I scanned a negative recently. Crop of the image attached which shows 80151 at Barry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted March 28, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2021 The cupboard was a modification fitted to accommodate the battery for the BR AWS - Ones that are recorded as having he modification are 2/3/7/11/13/14/15/16/18/19/24/28/31/33-36/ 38-42/45/46/54/55/57/58/60/61/61/ 63-68/ 82-85/87/88-92/95 102/209/113/122/123/126/128/130/137/140-54. I am not aware of the modification still being visible on any surviving members. hope that hepls 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Interesting. I'd just done a quick check of the two photos I have of the back end of Standard 4 tanks, and it wasn't on either of them. They're not in your list, so that explains it. Does that modification show faith in the integrity of the water tanks? A leak onto a battery would not be good news and, while I can't remember seeing a tank leak on a Standard 4 tank, I've seen a few leaks on Fairburns. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo675 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, pH said: Interesting. I'd just done a quick check of the two photos I have of the back end of Standard 4 tanks, and it wasn't on either of them. They're not in your list, so that explains it. Does that modification show faith in the integrity of the water tanks? A leak onto a battery would not be good news and, while I can't remember seeing a tank leak on a Standard 4 tank, I've seen a few leaks on Fairburns. Hi Ph, The area used for the battery is in a void under the coal bunker that was not filled with water, presumably the reason it was placed there. The LMS 2-6-4 tank engine's bunkers were similarly arranged. Gibbo. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted March 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) EDIT: I've removed this post as I was mistaken! The door is there but very hard to see when it's closed ..... Edited March 29, 2021 by RFS 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 80150 and 80151 have them. Look here. https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/80150-2/ https://preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com/80151-2/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 You can add 80037 to the list of ones that had them, see here on the Rail-Online site https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p974195917/h4a4da1c1#h4a4da1c1 Cheers Tony 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted March 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2021 Until your post I had not even noticed them despite having a good number together some years ago. It was thanks to the RCTS book on the BR tanks that the information was found. Which then explained why I had never seen on as most of my time has been on 79. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieK Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I believe that 80135 on a well known heritage railway in North Yorkshire has had an access door cut into the rear of the bunker to allow battery etc to be fitted for modern safety systems to allow it to run to Whitby when re-assembled. From memory, the doorway was cut in around 4 or 5 years ago. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 Thanks to everyone for their input, and Blandford 1969 for the initial information. The chalked dates seen inside are presumably maintenance dates for the battery. The whole date is not legible but the last figures are 67 which would tie in with the loco's withdrawal date of 7th May 1967. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 10 hours ago, EddieK said: I believe that 80135 on a well known heritage railway in North Yorkshire has had an access door cut into the rear of the bunker to allow battery etc to be fitted for modern safety systems to allow it to run to Whitby when re-assembled. From memory, the doorway was cut in around 4 or 5 years ago. The opposite of 80002 as I think it had one but seems to have lost it. https://www.flickr.com/photos/dc-7c/5448125416 Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2021 23 hours ago, Rail-Online said: You can add 80037 to the list of ones that had them, see here on the Rail-Online site https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p974195917/h4a4da1c1#h4a4da1c1 Cheers Tony A fascinating picture! The train formation consists of a Maunsell 2-set (probably a push-pull set), a second class coach in chocolate and cream (or possibly blue/grey), and a maroon brake composite. The engine has no lamps or discs, plus it looks like the fireman is asleep on the platform bench! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2021 6 hours ago, RFS said: possibly blue/grey That didn't exist yet and the coach has a roundel, so must be choc/cream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 I have now loaded the picture onto Flickr so, for completeness, here is the whole image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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