Colliery Wagon Questions

[sir douglas]

coal wagons may also be owned by industries not directly related to the coal industry but need the supply of it, ive seen photos over the years of wagons not owned by collieries or merchants with the writing on it "empties to so and so colliery"

[Compound2632]

6 hours ago, sir douglas said:

coal wagons may also be owned by industries not directly related to the coal industry but need the supply of it, ive seen photos over the years of wagons not owned by collieries or merchants with the writing on it "empties to so and so colliery"

 

Exempli gratia:

 

 

Admittedly not actually with an Empty To branding but I have a theory (based on a deduction about routing) that there may have been a contract with Birch Coppice or a neighbouring colliery in the North Warwickshire coalfield; I've seen a reference to the uses of Birch Coppice coal including 'biscuit making' as well as heating Windsor Castle.

 

There's a thread on Colman's wagons - the mustard manufacturer of Norwich - a photo of one of their coal wagons shows it apparently labelled Empty to Gurnos; anthracite was especially favoured in the food industry owing to its low arsenic content.

[doilum]

Little brother has just dropped off a box of old magazines. In Steam Railway Feb/March 2020 there is a great photo (Getty Image) of the arrival sidings at Goole in 1911. These show block trains of colliery owned wagons. Of particular interest is the variation in size of the lumps ranging from 18" blocks down to a train of Glasshoughton singles. The former are from Charles worths who operated several collieries in the Rothwell area east of Leeds. The wagons boldly proclaim " Best malting, steel & foundry coke". Definitely worthy of studying.

[sir douglas]

on a similar not which i keep forgeting to ask somewhere, if its okay here. there is a photo or 2 of the massive marshalling yard at Frickley, one of the wagons on the has "RAY" on the end?

[Rail-Online]

On 13/04/2021 at 20:15, sir douglas said:

on a similar not which i keep forgeting to ask somewhere, if its okay here. there is a photo or 2 of the massive marshalling yard at Frickley, one of the wagons on the has "RAY" on the end?

I have seen this before, it is from MA Ray & Sons of North Woolwich See Turton  Vol 5 page 179. 

 

 

 

Tony

[Tom Burnham]

M A Ray had several depots in the London suburbs - at Mottingham on the Dartford loop for one.