JohnRedpath1953 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Hello all. I thought this may be of interest. I needed to purchase a airbrush now that I have started refurbishing my locos but did not want to layout lots of dosh. Purchased this from evil bay for £30. Rechargeable airbrush. See how it performs Ta john 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRedpath1953 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DhVkJTHkWRQ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted April 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) Phil's workbench did a review. http://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/2021/02/mini-airbrush-with-compact-compressor.html?m=1 I am somewhat puzzled by this type of post and other similar ones. We spend a lot of money on our locos which are usually the centrepiece of our layouts. With the huge investment being made in locos, it is worth that money to buy a decent airbrush to make the most of them. I bought a iwata Neo for around £80 and have never regretted it. There was a similar post recently seeking the cheapest possible paint for locos. I think that if you have spent a lot of money on a loco or a kit then it serves you best to get the best airbrush and paint to finish it off. Edited April 21, 2021 by ikcdab 10 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, ikcdab said: Phil's workbench did a review. http://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/2021/02/mini-airbrush-with-compact-compressor.html?m=1 I am somewhat puzzled by this type of post and other similar ones. We spend a lot of money on our locos which are usually the centrepiece of our layouts. With the huge investment being made in locos, it is worth that money to buy a decent airbrush to make the most of them. I bought a iwata Neo for around £80 and have never regretted it. There was a similar post recently seeking the cheapest possible paint for locos. I think that if you have spent a lot of money on a loco or a kit then it serves you best to get the best airbrush and paint to finish it off. I can understand that but there are reasons why I can understand somebody wanting a cheaper kit: Some may be on a budget which will not stretch to something like a Neo. They may not have brand new models to repaint, but may instead have a few older models which cost little in the first place. I have seen reviews of some budget airbrushes & they seem to do quite well. What lets them down is availability of spare parts. Do you always know what airbrush will suit you? Some may buy a gravity feed & not get on with it. If the airbrush was cheap in the first place, what have you lost? Airbrushes are also useful for weathering the layout as well as painting locos. While being ideal for locos & coaches because it is smooth, powerful & very quiet, my compressor weighs nearly 20kg. Hauling that around the layout to weather the track is a bit of a pain. I have searched for longer hoses but would still have to move the compressor to reach all parts of the layout. A small battery compressor seems like a neat solution for this & will still be useful with a better airbrush at a later date. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ROSSPOP Posted April 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2021 Already ahead of the game ....... I`m planning to use mine on airbrushing scenic grass and some weathering experiments .... so far I`m pleasantly impressed. Scary business, as the following week I contracted Coronavirus ....but I don`t blame the airbrush !!! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Rixon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 From what is it recharged? If you need a compressor anyway, it seems odd to have a tank on the brush. If one has no compressor, then I'd expect that little tank to run out quite quickly. Maybe it works with the low-output compressors used for inflatable toys? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ROSSPOP Posted April 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Guy Rixon said: From what is it recharged? If you need a compressor anyway, it seems odd to have a tank on the brush. If one has no compressor, then I'd expect that little tank to run out quite quickly. Maybe it works with the low-output compressors used for inflatable toys? Three hours from the USB port on lap-top...... IT`s a cordless airbrush with handheld compressor..... Freedom for those small air brushing tasks... About 30 minutes continuous spraying so plenty of time to even spray an O gauge Tank loco. ...and much better than those propellant cans ... ................... after about 10 minutes work using enamels.... Edited April 21, 2021 by ROSSPOP 4 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 7 hours ago, ikcdab said: Phil's workbench did a review. http://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/2021/02/mini-airbrush-with-compact-compressor.html?m=1 I am somewhat puzzled by this type of post and other similar ones. We spend a lot of money on our locos which are usually the centrepiece of our layouts. With the huge investment being made in locos, it is worth that money to buy a decent airbrush to make the most of them. I bought a iwata Neo for around £80 and have never regretted it. There was a similar post recently seeking the cheapest possible paint for locos. I think that if you have spent a lot of money on a loco or a kit then it serves you best to get the best airbrush and paint to finish it off. Because of the huge investment in stock, don't have much left for the other bits and bobs really . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRedpath1953 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Interesting comments. .. I purchased this to try and get better weathering effect. I didn't want to mess about with cannisters or invest in a compressor or purchase a expensive airbrush. Have been using it today and it does a good job. Charged up after 1 hour 20 mins. Good for quick jobs Ta john 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisr40 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, JohnRedpath1953 said: Interesting comments. .. I purchased this to try and get better weathering effect. I didn't want to mess about with cannisters or invest in a compressor or purchase a expensive airbrush. Have been using it today and it does a good job. Charged up after 1 hour 20 mins. Good for quick jobs Ta john Hi how controllable is the airbrush itself ? I saw these a while back and like the concept but was worried it would be a bit like a hose pipe. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Torper Posted April 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2021 Well, if it does what it's required to do at a price that's acceptable, why not? DT 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRedpath1953 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Chrisr40 said: Hi how controllable is the airbrush itself ? I saw these a while back and like the concept but was worried it would be a bit like a hose pipe. Thanks Its definitely not like a hosepipe. As long as the paint is of the right consistency it works fine. You can do some fine detail with the airbrush. I've been using it on and off all day getting use to handling it and it works a treat. One major good point is that the setup does not take up much room. Ta john 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRedpath1953 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 Hello again. I watched phils workbench video and was quite shocked at his results. This is my 2nd day using this and I think I ve cracked it. It works flawless as long as your paint is thin. Good control and no sign of spattering. Chuffed John 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) Looks like Phil may have got a duff sample example. I've found these 0.3mm nozzles clog up very easily, these cheap brushes work better with a 0.5mm nozzle. Edited April 23, 2021 by Nile edited for clarity 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted April 22, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nile said: Looks like Phil may have got a duff sample. I've found these 0.3mm nozzles clog up very easily, these cheap brushes work better with a 0.5mm nozzle. Phil didn't get a sample, I bought it with my own money. There's a followup post where I put an Iwata on the compressor (good) and the supplied on of the airline from a Sparmax compressor (still rubbish). 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRedpath1953 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 I'm still very happy with the results.. I use a piece of card to check output before spraying locomotive. Main benefit is that it's quick to use for small jobs then clean. I'm 68 years old and doddery but have lots of modelling experience which helps. Raw beginners may struggle a bit. But overall not bad for £30. Ta john 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) Seems to be working fine. I’m attempting a first full respray using a cheap chinese airbrush (£80) , once i have a suitable thinner and got the dilution right it seems to work ok. Horses for courses.....i don't need anything more expensive. Now all they have to do is invent one that cleans itself as that is still a massive P.I.T.A Edited April 23, 2021 by rob D2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Phil Parker said: Phil didn't get a sample, I bought it with my own money. I wasn't implying that, so I've edited my post accordingly. I shall try and find your follow up post when I get home, the firewall here at work blocks your blog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, rob D2 said: Seems to be working fine. I’m attempting a first full respray using a cheap chinese airbrush (£80) , once i have I'm surprised that you think £80 is a cheap airbrush. I would consider it mid-range. I have the iwata Neo that is around £75 and is excellent. Maybe your £80 includes a compressor or other bits? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2021 A cheap chinese airbrush should be less than £30, some are less than half that. It depends on what extra bits it comes with. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 36 minutes ago, ikcdab said: I'm surprised that you think £80 is a cheap airbrush. I would consider it mid-range. I have the iwata Neo that is around £75 and is excellent. Maybe your £80 includes a compressor or other bits? It depends what circles you are in. I agree with you that £80 should get you a decent airbrush. My first was a Badger 200 & it still works very well (although it is not mine any more). I have seen some refer to an Iwata Revolution as 'budget' & claim an Eclipse is 'the minimum I would settle for'. These are about twice the price of a Neo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted April 23, 2021 Administrators Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Nile said: I wasn't implying that, so I've edited my post accordingly. I shall try and find your follow up post when I get home, the firewall here at work blocks your blog. No problem - I just don't want anyone thinking I live in a paradise of free toy train stuff. I'm enough of a nerd that I do this for fun too! The follow-up is here: https://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/2021/02/airbrush-test-part-2.html you need to have a word with your IT department and tell them they are blocking vital information! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, ikcdab said: I'm surprised that you think £80 is a cheap airbrush. I would consider it mid-range. I have the iwata Neo that is around £75 and is excellent. Maybe your £80 includes a compressor or other bits? Indeed, I meant the full package as it comes with compressor and two airbrushes 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) Like many others I bought a cheap compressor and airbrush set for about £60. In the main its been fine, I don't use it much just a few times a year. One of the airbrushes stopped working quite quickly, the second lasted a few years, but the performance seemed to drop off. In hindsight this is probably down to me and learning both how to use it and keep it clean I bought a new airbrush from https://www.everythingairbrush.com/ for about £30 inc postage and its of far better quality than the ones supplied with the compressor, I guess if I was using it regularly a dearer one might be better, however to date I am extremely pleased with the airbrush and sales advice I received from the company. Cheap may be bad, but inexpensive can be very rewarding. Edit I have found that by using the same paint (Phoenix Precision enamel) and using the companies recommended thinners works for me. chopping and changing or using inferior or different products could affect the performance Edited April 23, 2021 by hayfield 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, hayfield said: Cheap may be bad, but inexpensive can be very rewarding. I wonder how often people buy expensive items because they have 'all the features I may need' then discover that they only paid extra for features which they never end up using, or for 'better' components which provide no advantage. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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