josh_will Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) The black paint is proving to be quite stubborn when trying to remove it. Is this normal for older Hornby models? Edited April 30, 2021 by josh_will 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 29/04/2021 at 12:01, cypherman said: Hi all, The B12 chassis was used on several loco's. The B12 of course but also the Hall and a slightly modified version for the original Black 5. I was a long serving chassis for both Triang and Hornby. Am I correct to add the TriAng Flying Scotsman of the late 1960s / early 1970s to the above list? Years since I had a Scotsman , I think the B12 chassis block was reversed and bolt on extensions were added to accept the 60103 body 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolseley Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Here is my B12. I'm no expert on Tri-ang, but I believe the BR lined black one was the original incarnation of the model. Alongside it is a GEM whitemetal kit of the Caledonian Railway 903 (Cardean) class, which was designed to fit the B12 chassis. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolseley Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 In case anyone is wondering, yes, it is a three rail layout. I have converted the Cardean to three rail using a Marklin skate, but I haven't got around to doing the B12 yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) On 30/04/2021 at 17:10, Pandora said: Am I correct to add the TriAng Flying Scotsman of the late 1960s / early 1970s to the above list? Years since I had a Scotsman , I think the B12 chassis block was reversed and bolt on extensions were added to accept the 60103 body Yes, the Flying Scotsman used the B12 chassis. The LMS Streamline Princess Coronations also used the Flying Scotsman type chassis, based on the B12 chassis block. On 30/04/2021 at 17:23, Wolseley said: Here is my B12. I'm no expert on Tri-ang, but I believe the BR lined black one was the original incarnation of the model. Alongside it is a GEM whitemetal kit of the Caledonian Railway 903 (Cardean) class, which was designed to fit the B12 chassis. Yes, BR lined black was the original version, until C1971 when pre nationalisation liveries were introduced, based in part on the success of the LNER green version of Flying Scotsman from C1968. Edited September 10, 2021 by Ruffnut Thorston Typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 22 hours ago, Wolseley said: In case anyone is wondering, yes, it is a three rail layout. I have converted the Cardean to three rail using a Marklin skate, but I haven't got around to doing the B12 yet. My B12 has a home made (bodged up) pickup under the tender. She manages 5 HD coaches and does about a scale 150mph. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 On 30/04/2021 at 17:23, Wolseley said: Here is my B12. I'm no expert on Tri-ang, but I believe the BR lined black one was the original incarnation of the model. Alongside it is a GEM whitemetal kit of the Caledonian Railway 903 (Cardean) class, which was designed to fit the B12 chassis. I bashed them together.......... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Finally finished the paint (no name yet) on my "Cardean"! A heavy old lump but smooooooooth...... I am, unintentionally, getting quite a fleet of Caly motive power? 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Hi 33C, You are getting Caley look a likes. And almost everything I am building at the moment looks like it was designed by Mr Drummond..........lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, cypherman said: Hi 33C, You are getting Caley look a likes. And almost everything I am building at the moment looks like it was designed by Mr Drummond..........lol Yes, and you won't believe what landed on my bench with the old plunger.......watch this space! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 20 hours ago, cypherman said: Hi 33C, You are getting Caley look a likes. And almost everything I am building at the moment looks like it was designed by Mr Drummond..........lol A part started Caly 439 class from an Hornby M7, (a chimney!) which i have finished off. New dome, wider cab aperture, front spectacle plates, wider side tanks, westo pump, h-rails, s-valves, whistle, coal, lined and a light weathering..... and a bit of fun with the reference photo! Sorry, now back to the B12's? 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 The old B12 may be a little short but I still think it looks the part. Here's one my friend Harry detailed and converted to EM - I think it looks amazing ! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) Hi all, I had to post this here as the similarities on the front footplate between what has been done to the above B12 and this one I have just bought are too close. I was wondering if the same person had upgraded this one. Barclay could you post some more pictures of the B12 for comparison. Edited October 31, 2021 by cypherman 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Looks like a Mainline (Palitoy) type coupling on the tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 31/10/2021 at 13:10, Ruffnut Thorston said: Looks like a Mainline (Palitoy) type coupling on the tender. Hi Ruffnut, Yes it is a Mainline coupling, I had to make a new mounting to fit this coupling as the engine only had 3 link couplings and the original mounting had been removed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 31/10/2021 at 11:03, cypherman said: Hi all, I had to post this here as the similarities on the front footplate between what has been done to the above B12 and this one I have just bought are too close. I was wondering if the same person had upgraded this one. Barclay could you post some more pictures of the B12 for comparison. Sorry that's all I have. I don't know if he still has it even. But I might see him tomorrow at our EMGS meeting so I will take a snap of this to show him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell price Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I have recently acquired my first Hornby B12 as a keeper. She was a bit knocked about body wise but tender and chassis were fine so fitted a nice body out of the spares box, as I’ve used loads of these over the years under Gem and Wills Whitemetal kits including a couple of Cardeans. The bashed about body off this latest one is minus its smoke box door and I could do with one. The bashed about body is on its way to becoming a Great Western loco!!!! Yes and not freelance either. James Holden it seems tome may have been behind the experimental GWR Earl Cawdor and a quick look at Cyril Freezers drawing of Earl Cawdor and the B12 show lots of likeness. I’ve already shortened the body of the B12 and plan to use a Ks footplate and outside frames to add weight where it is needed on a 440. Should be some straightforward plastic surgery. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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