SouthernBlue80s Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 That's given me inspiration to hack about one of mine. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 A couple of new ones. First, a 12t BR van (parkside) finished using the old acrylic over enamel method. The matt varnish has frosted the transfers a little here but just about OK. A close up of the process here. The white spirit and acrylic leave a nice flakey, cracked paint effect. Areas where scratched away with a cocktail stick. Below is a gwr 12t van, showing the weathered underframe using powders. The wheels are "painted" with a powders and decalfix mix. 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) A wider shot of the GW van. And another of tge BR van, showing a flakey end brace. The railtec transfers appear frosted due to the humbrol matt spray, probably not sprayed in optimal conditions. Edited July 17, 2021 by westernviscount 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 Some close ups... A quick note on the buffers. A lesson learned from previous errors. The van is primed halfords red to begin with. The buffer shanks are left in this state as much as is possible to appear as being rusted. 10 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavymetalwagons Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Outstanding workmanship very envious 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 Away from the wagon topic slightly, here are a couple of my latest efforts. It has been a while since I went near the models but was sifting through some photos and decided to share. A lima upgrade finished with a humbrol matt varnish and carrs weathering powders. And a van which was a slightly different approach to my norm. This involved priming with halfords red, dry brushed humbrol oranges, brown and reds and then another spray of halfords red then soaking of thinners and scratching with a cocktail stick to reveal the layers. And finally an old pic of a van i finished using powders and humbrol decalfix. Finished with white pencil legends. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 great work 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 19/01/2022 at 15:02, ess1uk said: great work Thank ESS. Got a couple more vans I need to knuckle down and crack on with. Bit cold for priming though!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 Here is a recent "back to modelling" project. A Parkside insulated van kit with etched brake gear items. The paint work and weathering involved the priming of the whole wagon in halfords red. Then, a light spray of an acrylic white (very cheap). Then some white spirit brush over the metal parts (bracing, van ends etc) and a cocktail stick used to gently scratch away the white paint, revaling the red primer which now hopefully reads as rusted metal showing through the paint. Next, a black wash into the grooves etc, wiped back with a cotton bud and turps. I am experimenting with my airbrush and used mig washable black over to add dust etc. Quite happy but hope to get a bit more refined with the airbrush. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Looks very grubby David 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) On 04/11/2022 at 06:49, sb67 said: Looks very grubby David 👍 The reference picture is very much worse! I felt if I went too far, it might not be believable. Im enjoying having the airbrush but it might now be getting a bit cold for it. Edited November 6, 2022 by westernviscount Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) I have been continuing to fiddle about with the airbrush. I have had my comet kits hawksworth hanging about for over a year, awaiting some grubbing up. I have to admit having spent a good amount of time on building it, I was loath to weather it! I think it is all the better for it though. Edited November 12, 2022 by westernviscount 8 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Looks fantastic David, you're really getting the hang of that airbrush. 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 In the above images of the Hawkworth Bg there is a small amount of staining around the ends of each side (it looks damp). Since these photos, the "damp patch" has spread to a much bigger area. I am slightly confused as to why this is happening. I used Mig airbrushed acrylics. It is a brass kit, primed with halfords red primer, then railmatch colour rattle can , then humbrol acrylic matt varnish. It remained in this state for a year until I finally got round to weathering. The area is near soldered joints so I wonder if some flux or other contaminant has crept through? I thought I had cleaned it however. Any thoughts welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, westernviscount said: In the above images of the Hawkworth Bg there is a small amount of staining around the ends of each side (it looks damp). Since these photos, the "damp patch" has spread to a much bigger area. I am slightly confused as to why this is happening. I used Mig airbrushed acrylics. It is a brass kit, primed with halfords red primer, then railmatch colour rattle can , then humbrol acrylic matt varnish. It remained in this state for a year until I finally got round to weathering. The area is near soldered joints so I wonder if some flux or other contaminant has crept through? I thought I had cleaned it however. Any thoughts welcome. If it seems to be around a soldered joint I'd go with your flux theory. Remember, cleanliness is not next to godliness, it's next to impossible. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2022 Logic suggests it must be solder/flux related but it looks more like the stain you sometimes see after weathering a RTR loco that has been enthusiastically lubricated at the factory leading to a tidemark.... Chris H 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 Thank you @Gilbert and @Enterprisingwestern. What to do next I wonder. Some white spirit perhaps to remove the weathered layer? I am surprised it didnt show on the blue paintwork but it may have seeped through the handle area over time. I had been nervous to weather it, being my first brass kit but I don't think all hope is lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, westernviscount said: Thank you @Gilbert and @Enterprisingwestern. What to do next I wonder. Some white spirit perhaps to remove the weathered layer? I am surprised it didnt show on the blue paintwork but it may have seeped through the handle area over time. I had been nervous to weather it, being my first brass kit but I don't think all hope is lost. Without seeing the model close up my advice may be useless but....my first action would be to do nothing, wait and see if it gets worse? Did you build the kit in such a way you can see inside - does the underframe or roof come off - it may help diagnose the probem? FWIW it does look nicely weathered and it might be that leaving it for a while may lead you to ignore it as trying to sort it may make things worse.....or alternatively wait as I suggest and see if it stabilises and decide if it can be disguised with - say - pigments or risk a bit more airbrushing. It may end up being something that does not look as bad to you over time if you leave it.... ATB Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted November 16, 2022 Author Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Gilbert said: Without seeing the model close up my advice may be useless but....my first action would be to do nothing, wait and see if it gets worse? Did you build the kit in such a way you can see inside - does the underframe or roof come off - it may help diagnose the probem? FWIW it does look nicely weathered and it might be that leaving it for a while may lead you to ignore it as trying to sort it may make things worse.....or alternatively wait as I suggest and see if it stabilises and decide if it can be disguised with - say - pigments or risk a bit more airbrushing. It may end up being something that does not look as bad to you over time if you leave it.... ATB Chris Cheers Chris. Yes I can take a look inside and you are right, it may shed some light. Again, I think I agree that it is worth waiting for a bit. The patch is now a lot bigger and although initially I thought it didnt look bad it is now very distracting... It is following the area of the weathering. I shall report back!! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, westernviscount said: Cheers Chris. Yes I can take a look inside and you are right, it may shed some light. Again, I think I agree that it is worth waiting for a bit. The patch is now a lot bigger and although initially I thought it didnt look bad it is now very distracting... It is following the area of the weathering. I shall report back!! I can only make sympathetic noises at this point...sorry..don't do anything quickly... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 10 hours ago, westernviscount said: Cheers Chris. Yes I can take a look inside and you are right, it may shed some light. Again, I think I agree that it is worth waiting for a bit. The patch is now a lot bigger and although initially I thought it didnt look bad it is now very distracting... It is following the area of the weathering. I shall report back!! That's a bit frustrating, I've never come across anything like that before, especially as you've not touched it until you started weathering. That said my first thought would be remove that bit of the weathering and if the paint below is ok, clean and degrease then put on another weathering coat. I'd gently remove it using downward strokes so any residual weathering would look like rain marks. Good luck. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 17, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2022 The only problem I foresee is that if you do localised decontamination, what will it damage and can you be sure you've eradicated it all? The worst case scenario might be the only 100% guaranteed solution. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 This phenomenon has been mentioned in respect of oil on RTR locos and I have had it happen on a kit built vehicle as well. I'm usually fairly religious about washing kits after every soldering session and I have only had one occurrence, so maybe there is a connection. I left mine until it stopped spreading - which was over a year - then cleaned it off and reweathered. I do the same with locos when it happens, though there I clean off regularly to reduce the amount of oil in play. Personally on a vehicle like that I wouldn't think twice about patch painting, maybe with a cigarette paper patch stuck on to simulate a repair, although I appreciate that not everyone might want to do that. Cleaning it now might stop it spreading, but it might also make it hard to see whether it's still spreading, if that makes sense. I'd leave well alone and see what happens, I think. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 18, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2022 I have seen similar regarding oil (weeping through plastic rtr loco bodies) and also WD40 spreading from a dousing of gears in kit built locos. What sort of flux did you use? Poweflow (or plumbers mate) is really hard to wash off Put it away ( use it on the lauot) for as long as you can then recheck.if it is flux I would suggest the base coats may start to peel, if it is oil or grease, clean it up (some judicious use of washing up liquid my even work). It took a good few years before the wd40 stopped spreading onthe loco in question.. it then gave the weathering a very realistic sheen so I left it alone. Baz 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted November 18, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2022 If you agree with the majority of advice it looks like we can all look forward to a summer update....but finally - are both sides the same? Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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