ianwales Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Hi All I remember seeing some time ago an article showing the changes needed and the conversion of the Hornby LNER Gresley buffet car to be suitible for the last ones in service in Blue/Grey livery, can't remember if it was in the mainstream modelling mags or a Rail Express modeling supplement, If someone remembers this article can you remind me what magazine/issue it was in please? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Hornby did release the Gresley Buffet car in blue and grey but not sure if it differed in any way from the earlier version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted May 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2021 Is there anything useful here? https://www.steve-banks.org/prototype-and-traffic/364-lner-buffet-cars-61-6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I can supply etched overlays for the re-built buffet cars, but the delivery will be 6-8 weeks. PM me if you are interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ianwales said: Hi All I remember seeing some time ago an article showing the changes needed and the conversion of the Hornby LNER Gresley buffet car to be suitible for the last ones in service in Blue/Grey livery, can't remember if it was in the mainstream modelling mags or a Rail Express modeling supplement, If someone remembers this article can you remind me what magazine/issue it was in please? Ian Pretty sure it was Model Rail, but also have a look on the web for Porthcullin articles, I'm pretty sure Olly Turner (?) documented his conversion thereabouts. Edited May 22, 2021 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, leopardml2341 said: Pretty sure it was Model Rail, but also have a look on the web for Porthcullin articles, I'm pretty sure Olly Turner (?) documented his conversion thereabouts. In fact, here you are: https://highlandmiscellany.com/2015/08/15/dinner-time-a-gresley-buffet-for-portchullin/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 8 hours ago, sandwich station said: Hornby did release the Gresley Buffet car in blue and grey but not sure if it differed in any way from the earlier version. Hi Thanks for that, I was aware that Hornby had done theirs in blue/grey, but, it is the article I am after as I want to convert the Dapol N Gauge version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 7 hours ago, leopardml2341 said: In fact, here you are: https://highlandmiscellany.com/2015/08/15/dinner-time-a-gresley-buffet-for-portchullin/ Thanks for the info, very useful, I'm hoping to do the Dapol N Gauge version 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 9 hours ago, sandwich station said: Hornby did release the Gresley Buffet car in blue and grey but not sure if it differed in any way from the earlier version. It was a straight re-livery so did not accurately reflect the correct period details. Still an attractive model but not 100% correct. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 5 hours ago, andyman7 said: It was a straight re-livery so did not accurately reflect the correct period details. Still an attractive model but not 100% correct. Yes I saw that from the article that leopardml2341 posted a link to. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I'm pretty sure the article was actually in Railway Modeller rather than Model Rail, I seem to recall the RM-style line drawings favoured in many of their conversion articles. Afraid I can't help with an issue no. though, I had a purge of magazines recently. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted May 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Ragtag said: I'm pretty sure the article was actually in Railway Modeller rather than Model Rail, I seem to recall the RM-style line drawings favoured in many of their conversion articles. Afraid I can't help with an issue no. though, I had a purge of magazines recently. The article in the Modeller involved alterations to the windows and panelling to make it a better representation of the BR rebuilds, rather than just a straight repaint. Sorry, but I don't know which issue it was in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, 31A said: The article in the Modeller involved alterations to the windows and panelling to make it a better representation of the BR rebuilds, rather than just a straight repaint. Sorry, but I don't know which issue it was in! Look at the link leopardml2341 posted, it shows the alterations. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted May 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2021 6 hours ago, sandwich station said: Look at the link leopardml2341 posted, it shows the alterations. Thank you; the fact that there was a following page wasn't obvious to me from the format of the web page! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted May 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2021 The article I was thinking of was in the "Railway Modeller" July 2005, by Neil Ripley. It involves altering the kitchen side and the equipment on the roof, similar to the "Highland Miscellany" blog. It also involves a complete repaint from a teak vehicle as I don't think Hornby had produced it in blue and grey at that point. It's quite a detailed article (three pages, of which about half is about the real cars) but no drawings. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, 31A said: The article I was thinking of was in the "Railway Modeller" July 2005, by Neil Ripley. It involves altering the kitchen side and the equipment on the roof, similar to the "Highland Miscellany" blog. It also involves a complete repaint from a teak vehicle as I don't think Hornby had produced it in blue and grey at that point. It's quite a detailed article (three pages, of which about half is about the real cars) but no drawings. That's the one and, as you say, it did precede the Hornby release 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 The Model Rail (IIRC) one I referred to was published after the Hornby release. Don't partake of 'The Muddler' very often, nor for that matter Model Rail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 On 22/05/2021 at 17:07, andyman7 said: It was a straight re-livery so did not accurately reflect the correct period details. Still an attractive model but not 100% correct. And the first coach with a £50+ RRP, again IIRC £54.95 - quite a shock at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1466 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Taking this slightly off topic . In the 1970’s , I took a train from King’s Cross to Leeds ( i think ). The train had clearly been dragged out as a last minute replacement . My mark 1 carriage was damp , cold and musty . The lights didn’t come on until we reached Stevenage. Eventually I went looking for a coffee and found a Gresley buffet . The ride was definitely superior and it was reasonably warm which may have been down to the heat from the urns . My unreliable memory suggests there was a building plate dated 1914 …. Shurely shim mistake . But the experience was a testament to an era when things were built to last and up to a standard rather than down to a cost .’ 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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