Heinz57 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 27/05/2021 - Revisiting an old idea Hi all, Some of you will be aware that I have recently put my other project, Gresty Bridge, on hold for a bit to work on something else. This is my new project, Venture Park. When I say 'new idea' I'm actualy revisiting an old idea and will be doing something similar to my previous layout, Eleveden Road. The theory of it is simple, a modern day maintenance depot servicing HST stock. Mostly coaches but power cars and DMUs will also be present. As with Elveden, rakes of coaches will be bought in by loco where they will be dropped off, and then shunted around the layout by a pair of 08 shunters. Other coaches will then be shunted into short rakes to be taken away by loco. Most of the stock on the layout will be Midlands. So we're talking East Midlands Trains, Midland Mainline etc. However there will also be east coast examples such as LNER, Virgin East Coast, GNER etc. Similar to what you might see at Neville Hill. Of course my layout isn't situated near the East Coast Main Line so perhaps they've just been bought over for servicing. Many people will question why I'm going back to an old idea, surely I should do something completely new and fresh? Well anybody who knows me will tell you that the HSTs are my favourite trains, I currently have seven full sets and I am constantly expanding my HST fleet. I also have five hundred quids worth of custom EMT 08s that I originally purchased for Elveden (and will only run on a layout of a similar idea) sat doing nothing. So these reasons combined it’s a no brainer really. Also, the HSTs have recently been retired from the Midland region so that gives me all the more reason to do it. Elveden didn't have a specific setting, just 'somewhere in the East Midlands'. For Venture Park I am doing it differently, I am giving it a set location. This will be next to the Midland Main Line in the south east corner of Kettering, Northamptonshire. The red square in the screen shot below shows the location of my layout. Venture Business Park, the name sake for the layout, is situated just to the north, on the other side of the A14... The plan is actually one I created back in 2017 when I still had Elveden Road. I was looking for something to replace said layout and this was a contender. Of course I instead went for Gresty Bridge... So that's the plan and idea for now. I am going to be quite clever in the way I build this layout. I'm going to do it in such a way that allows me to change the era between the early 00s and today with minimal changes. And run it as a normal TMD for my DRS stock should I wish to, again with minimal changes. I hope you like my idea, Thanks for looking, Matt Edited May 5, 2022 by Heinz57 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psiborg Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Not bad mate, I think that you should take the opportunity to make a step forward and this looks a bit 'samey'. I'll spend a few hours on Anyrail and see what I can come up with to hopefully improve it and email the plan over. (I won't put the pic on here I'll let you decide if it's any good! It's your thread) Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Paul Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) Hi Matt, It's quite clear that you very much, Like a Challenge, and I fully understand your reasons for building a New layout, so that you can utilise your vast range of stock. I agree with Simon, that your current plan does look a bit "samey" As they say, it's all in the planning !!! Let Simon come up with a plan for you, thats gives your layout some "oomph" and creativity I'm sure you won't go wrong, and you will be on the "Right track" (Pun intended) Regards, Paul Edited May 30, 2021 by Perfect Paul punctuation 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I like the idea behind it , but I think track plan falls into trap of too much track and too many back and forwards shunts required maybe 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz57 Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 31/05/2021 - Change of Plan There's been a change of plan. So true to his word above, Simon sat on AnyRail until the small hours of Sunday morning coming up with a new plan for me. It was waiting for me in an email on Sunday morning. I was absolutely blown away by it! A few minor changes were made on Sunday and a few emails and WhatsApp messages were fired back and forth until the plan was finalised to something which is ultimate perfection... The plan is based on the track layout at Derby Etches Park, straight away eliminating the 'back and forth' that Eleveden Road seemed to have. Look, don't get me wrong Elveden did have a good track plan and was great for the knowledge and space available at the time. To this day I still stand by it was a good plan, and so is the one above. But this new plan just stomps all over it! It is actually bigger measuring a grand old 23.5ft by 2ft6 deep! First off, I'll say I don't have that space available to me at home, so what we actually have is two layouts in one. Let me explain, the first three boards from the left create a smaller 13ft version that I use at home. The two entrance tracks above the central shed create a scenic fiddleyard. The next two boards create an extended layout for at shows. The first version of this plan Simon sent to me was 17.5ft and just had the extra scenic board creating two headshunts. I then suggested what about adding a proper fiddleyard and added a 4.5ft traverser. Simon then extended this to the final version which is a teeny bit over 6ft in length. This will now allow me to run a shortened HST into the fuel tracks at the front of the layout. I'm thinking East Midlands Trains (ex Grand Central) buffer fitted sets. The plan features a couple of subtle nods to my original Elveden Road plan, such as the shed in the top right corner (although it will probably be low relief on this layout). It will also operate the same as Elveden or indeed my plan above. However it will also allow for a lot more movement. The smaller shed will be used for DMUs and power cars whilst the main shed in the middle of the layout will be for coaching stock. There's a couple of CET and fuel tracks, plus a lathe shed. The entrance to the fiddleyard will be disguised with a road bridge (again a nod to the original layout) which in the case of this layout will be the A14 approaching J9 from the East setting the location of the layout. I could sit and type all day about the plan but I will probably bore you all to death. I think this plan is that good it speaks for itself. I am beyond happy with it, cheers Simon! Thanks everyone for looking, hope you like the new plan as much as I do! Matt 2 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxokid Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Like your track planning here Matt,looking forward to more from this now cheers neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stivesnick Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Hi The revised track plan looks much more like a modern depot - look forward to seeing how this develops. Is the layout N or OO? Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz57 Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) Thanks chaps, glad you like the idea! Nick, the layout will be 00 built using bullhead points and SMP track. I thought I'd post this too, its just a closer up view of the three boards that will create the shorter 'home' layout... I'm really looking forward to getting this project started. I have already orderd my baseboard materials with my local woodyard! Cheers, Matt Edited May 5, 2022 by Heinz57 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz57 Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) 26/06/2021 - No Going Back Now! Good evening all, Construction has finally started on Venture Park! I have built the four scenic baseboards over the past couple of weeks. I have constructed the frames from 3x1 planed PSE timber with 9mm Plywood tops. This shows the three scenic boards that I will use at home sat on the bench with the extension board lent up to the right. Next job is to tidy up the screw holes with filler and give the boards a lick of paint top and bottom, then fit legs after. I am in no rush to do this as I haven't got any track yet. Thanks for looking, Matt Edited May 5, 2022 by Heinz57 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) Interesting place to build a depot. make sure you sort your drains out, it floods down there. Any OLE planned for the second hand EMUs? Edited June 29, 2021 by ess1uk Spellin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz57 Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 Funny you should say that but I have been thinking about adding OHLE on some of the tracks, perhaps just the back two tracks and some of the top left sidings, I haven't fully decided yet. However, I am more torn towards not adding them to allow me to back-date the layout and run it in a pre-wires period (I have loads of MML stock to create this alternate period). I also know how much of a pain in the behind it can be on a transportable layout! Cheers for looking, Matt 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 You will need one of these to go at the end of Weetabix factory car park https://3dprintingcorner.co.uk/product/176-gsm-r-mast/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz57 Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Still here Just a quick one to say we're still here! Since my last update progress on the layout has pretty much stalled. I have painted the boards, but thats not worthy of an update. But that is about as far as I can get because I am still waiting on my points to arrive. I am using the Peco Bullhead points which are, like most track at the moment, in short supply. I have them on back order so its just a case of waiting for them to arrive. Sadly I can't do much else to the layout until they arrive! Hopefuly that will be soon! Stay tuned... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Heinz57 said: Still here Just a quick one to say we're still here! Since my last update progress on the layout has pretty much stalled. I have painted the boards, but thats not worthy of an update. But that is about as far as I can get because I am still waiting on my points to arrive. I am using the Peco Bullhead points which are, like most track at the moment, in short supply. I have them on back order so its just a case of waiting for them to arrive. Sadly I can't do much else to the layout until they arrive! Hopefuly that will be soon! Stay tuned... AC Models Eastleigh had 3 Bullhead Points and some Track in stock a couple of weeks back if that helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz57 Posted May 2, 2022 Author Share Posted May 2, 2022 02/05/2021 - Getting back on track Dear friends and followers, It's been just shy of a year since any updates on here. Reason being was that I was still waiting for track to arrive, because I couldn't do anything until it did the project was put on hold. Anyway, a couple of months ago I had a large box from Hattons arrive on my doorstep containing eighteen shiney new Peco Bullhead points! So finally after a good year of waiting track laying has finaly begun on Venture Park! It is going at a snails pace because a) other commitments and b) I want to get it right! But this is not a race and I'm not bothered how long it takes me to lay the track as long as its right when its done! Here are a few photos of progress... First photo taken a month or so ago shows the first section of track laid which is the pointwork feeding the top storage sidings Second two photos taken today show the point ladders completed, this is the backbone of the layout feeding most areas. Having this section done is most of the pointwork now completed and laid. Thats all for now... Matt 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psiborg Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Good progress mate, only four more points on the "Home" three boards left to fit, keep up the good work Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberValleyRailway Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Looks great mate. Will follow this layout with interest! :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz57 Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Don't Stop Me Now! Good evening, Its been just over a month since I last posted but I've made some significant progress to the track laying and finished all of it on the first two boards. Progress was slow and it hasn't been without its hicups. I laid pretty much all the point 'ladder' and had to take it all up and relay it... twice... because it wasn't perfect and broke a point in the process. However, its finished and I'm very happy with it so its been worth the blood and tears. Note the two tracks that stop dead after the point. These two tracks curve over the board join to the shed board, so until I lay the tracks on that board I will leave them as they are. Speaking of which, I am still waiting on parts to alow me to do my pits inside the shed. I can't really do anything on that board until they arrive so for now track laying itself is at a bit of a stand still. Instead, I am going to turn my attention towards wiring. Whilst I wait for the stuff I'm going to get these first two boards wired and tested, and build the control panel. That's all for now. Thanks for reading, Matt 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz57 Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 02/06/2022 at 17:52, TimberValleyRailway said: Looks great mate. Will follow this layout with interest! :D Thanks buddy, welcome aboard! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz57 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Share Posted July 11, 2022 11/07/2022 - Wires, Solder and burnt fingers Dear friends and followers. Although I post this on the 11th July, this post is more relevant to a week ago. Its been a busy week so I didn't get around to posting this update. Anyway, its here now! So as mentioned in the previous post, I decided to focus my attention to wiring the first two baseboards whilst I wait for parts to complete the inspection pits and hard standing on board three. I started by sitting down and making all the D connectors for the layout. These come in the form of a 25-way connector for each board fed directly from the control panel and either a 9 or 15 way as a cross board connector. These were completed over a couple of sittings consisting of boredome and burnt fingers. After that I proceeded to wire the boards up... Board one came first and as completed in one sitting... Board two followed and was completed over a further two sittings. I am using Cobalt Ip motors which are wired up in the traditional analouge way using a toggle switch. After fitting each motor was tested using a little 'test rig' I knocked together, basicaly a toggle switch mounted in a project box. So I know they all work eletricaly and after a bit of fine tuning with the fulcrum bar, they all throw perfectly too. Control panel is next on the to do list, my oh my how I hate this bit... Thanks for looking, Matt 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psiborg Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Good progress mate, I bet you can't wait to get something running! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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