RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 I encountered it as applied to the Triang model and for many years believed that it applied only to this and was expanded later to include the real locos. It is sort of suitable in a way that I can’t quite explain as a child’s name for the model, and it made sense that it became the word for the real loco for those of my generation that grew up with the model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Right Away said: Right on. Another “Americanism” which has crept to the fore! Why do people keeping spreading this misinformation, in the US it was Depot or Railroad Station, (maybe even railway station?) It was not an Americanism and seemed to have spontaneously arisen in the UK some time ago. As I have said several times before (yawn) I had hear it being used (but not often) as early as the late 1960s It has come much more to the fore in the last 20(?) years and can now be found on Google maps pretty well everywhere. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 They don't have to worry about whether crossings/frogs are live or dead either - although it does matter to amphibians. I've yet to meet a frog that's passed its GCEs, which is probably why there's no such thing as Uni frog. 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 6 hours ago, APOLLO said: Well it will always be single or double amber for me, yellow is for diesel front ends !!!! Brit15 Amber was dropped by the railway many years ago! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2021 4 hours ago, St. Simon said: Yep, that's one that annoys me as well, also AWS 'Ramp' (there are not ramps, they are Magnets or Inductors) Simon Although on the system they were originally 'derived' from they were ramps. and a shoe contacted them. I assume the term stuck 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I thoroughly detest the term "disassemble" - obviously invented by someone ignorant.....................ignorant of the correct term, "dismantle". 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I get annoyed at people getting annoyed about "train station". If that's what the general populous uses to describe the locations where trains stop to allow their self-loading cargo to load and unload itself, then that's what it is, get over yourselves. Clinging onto archaic terminology and getting upset because the world has changed isn't a good look. That should make me popular! 2 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 58 minutes ago, melmerby said: Although on the system they were originally 'derived' from they were ramps. and a shoe contacted them. I assume the term stuck Probably aided by the fact that a lot of AWS magnets are in approximately ramp shaped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Wigan railway signals !!!!!!!!!!! Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I get annoyed by incorrect spelling or pronunciation of the word “catenary” or “railway catenary”*. Never mind the incorrect descriptions of the various parts of “the overhead”, not many seem to understand that but I suppose with the less common modelling of overhead wires in the UK, one should not be too surprised. *now that I’ve spelt it out, it looks wrong to me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, Zomboid said: If that's what the general populous uses .... Populace. That should make me popular! 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 nonfitted wagons for unfitted! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, br2975 said: I thoroughly detest the term "disassemble" - obviously invented by someone ignorant.....................ignorant of the correct term, "dismantle". I should take it up with the Oxford English Dictionary if I was you. Go on, tell them how ignorant they are. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: They don't have to worry about whether crossings/frogs are live or dead either It was not part of my plan for today to have to deal with Shroedinger’s frogs… 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Allegheny1600 said: I get annoyed by incorrect spelling or pronunciation of the word “catenary” or “railway catenary”*. Never mind the incorrect descriptions of the various parts of “the overhead”, not many seem to understand that but I suppose with the less common modelling of overhead wires in the UK, one should not be too surprised. *now that I’ve spelt it out, it looks wrong to me! Hi I fully agree, the term that should be used is Overhead Line Equipment (OLE, there is no H in the middle). The catenary wire (with the curve ) is the support wire trying to maintain the correct height above the rails of the contact wire. A catenary curve is a mathematically calculated one not a natural one. Post are mast. Gantries are portals. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, br2975 said: I thoroughly detest the term "disassemble" - obviously invented by someone ignorant.....................ignorant of the correct term, "dismantle". About 50 years ago a friend went on a series of training courses with Philips Electrologica in Eindhoven. One of the Dutch instructors said you can dismantle anything - because someone must have mantled it! 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 That perennial hardy favourite "Guaranteed to sell" or derivatives thereof, when used to describe a pet item not covered in RTR. Like a model railway fan (fan of course being a shortened form of "fanatic", or someone with excessive or single minded zeal) will know the financial and business background to decisions made by companies whose sole legal obligation is to make money for their shareholders, not a model of the Little Wibblesdown and Miss Marpleshire Light railway no.2 in the pretty Primrose yellow livery it carried for two weeks in 1902 when some clot upended a tin of paint over it, or whatever guaranteed sales prediction is being trotted out. Unlike an OO scale Class AM10 electric multiple unit which of course is guaranteed to sell, by the containerload. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I should not let it get to me but I do hate the name 'The Mule' which has been given to the Waterloo-Exeter route by enthusiasts, cheers 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 I never heard a railwayman refer to a thumper, and have no idea where the term bogcart originated, but find it disrespectful to those early diesel units that were needed to oust steam and reduce costs. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said: Overhead Line Equipment (OLE, there is no H in the middle). T Oh yes, OHLE is one that irritates me. Overhead is (in this context) one word, so it's OLE. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Barclay said: Jinty - what a stupid name ! I understand that it was never used by railways or railwaymen in relation to the LMS 3F 0-6-0T in any case ? 'Jinty' was the MR class 1322 0-4-0ST, the LMS 3F was 'Jocko' at many sheds but at Watford, and some crews at Willesden were known as 'Dobbins', and, as someone's already mentioned, 'Bagnalls' on the old S&DJR ( well the one that ran from Bath/Burnham on Sea to Bournemouth). Edited June 9, 2021 by bike2steam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 If you don’t like ‘dead in tow’, CSX have terms to describe diesel units in various states and positions: https://www.csx.com/index.cfm/about-us/company-overview/railroad-dictionary/?i=U Scroll down to terms beginning ‘Units’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, wombatofludham said: That perennial hardy favourite "Guaranteed to sell" or derivatives thereof, when used to describe a pet item not covered in RTR. Like a model railway fan (fan of course being a shortened form of "fanatic", or someone with excessive or single minded zeal) will know the financial and business background to decisions made by companies whose sole legal obligation is to make money for their shareholders, not a model of the Little Wibblesdown and Miss Marpleshire Light railway no.2 in the pretty Primrose yellow livery it carried for two weeks in 1902 when some clot upended a tin of paint over it, or whatever guaranteed sales prediction is being trotted out. Unlike an OO scale Class AM10 electric multiple unit which of course is guaranteed to sell, by the containerload. Surely Mark you mean, Class 312 electric multiple units which will fly off the shelves and sell like hot cakes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted June 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Rivercider said: I should not let it get to me but I do hate the name 'The Mule' which has been given to the Waterloo-Exeter route by enthusiasts, cheers I'd love to know where that name came from. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Just now, rodent279 said: I'd love to know where that name came from. Muffin or Moscow? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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