Csalem Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I was always a fan of the Class 58 as they were the closest in shape to Irish GMs (until the 201s came along). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Given the range of coveringo of the MGR fleet, any chance of a 'first and last' MGR wagon as preserved at Shildon 350000 and 368459, which would also be a nice showpiece for modellers to get a range of varients you are capturing but in a single set. Or the 'gate guard' at Knottingly 350002. Us present day preservation modellers would apprecaite these fine models, but can't justify a whole pack of long-scrapped vehicles.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishdurham Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: Given the range of coveringo of the MGR fleet, any chance of a 'first and last' MGR wagon as preserved at Shildon 350000 and 368459, which would also be a nice showpiece for modellers to get a range of varients you are capturing but in a single set. Or the 'gate guard' at Knottingly 350002. Us present day preservation modellers would apprecaite these fine models, but can't justify a whole pack of long-scrapped vehicles.... I think Locomotion teamed up with Cavalex on that one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 That's a shame (mainly because I think the Accurascale model will be a better piece of kit). But nothing to stop Accurascale doing their own independently of the NRM.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfreight1998 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 53 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: That's a shame (mainly because I think the Accurascale model will be a better piece of kit). But nothing to stop Accurascale doing their own independently of the NRM.... What makes you think that? Cavalex's previous models have been excellent. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 58 minutes ago, Ruairidh Munro said: Need more MHA's, 4 EWS wagons just isn't going to cut it for anything resembling engineering/spoil train when the real thing can be 30+ wagons. If it's like anything else they do, I can bet that there will be another couple of packs with different running numbers released in due course... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted July 29, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, G-BOAF said: Given the range of coveringo of the MGR fleet, any chance of a 'first and last' MGR wagon as preserved at Shildon 350000 and 368459, which would also be a nice showpiece for modellers to get a range of varients you are capturing but in a single set. Or the 'gate guard' at Knottingly 350002. Us present day preservation modellers would apprecaite these fine models, but can't justify a whole pack of long-scrapped vehicles.... Hi @G-BOAF, We have done (and currently working on) some models for Railway Museum but B350000 was one we couldn't take up as we found there was the litany of detail differences which are apparent when we looked across the real thing at Shildon a couple of years back. The most obvious differences between the prototype hopper B350000 and the production HAAs are the door operating gear covers and the slave levers on the opposite sides. The prototype featured a very distinctive semi-enclosed box with the inside of the gearwheel partially showing while later wagons had fully enclosed gears, while the door levers on the production batch were not full curved at the connecting rod end. There are many other small changes as you'd expect from a prototype, including a subtly altered chassis frame, different riveting on the hopper sub frame, alternative piping runs for the air brake pipes that travel on the side of the solebar, the disc brake actuating cylinder, the safety catches, and so on. It was too difficult to justify a large amount of tooling just for a one off wagon as a special edition, as much as we wanted to do it, and we certainly couldnt bring ourselves to fudge it. That's just not what we do after all. Oh well! Cheers! Fran 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted July 29, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Ruairidh Munro said: Need more MHA's, 4 EWS wagons just isn't going to cut it for anything resembling engineering/spoil train when the real thing can be 30+ wagons. Hi @Ruairidh Munro, Just the 12 MHAs in this first run, but they've been very popular so I can see more numbers coming in run 2. A bit of a rake builder situation for now with this first release. Cheers! Fran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Hi @Ruairidh Munro, Just the 12 MHAs in this first run, but they've been very popular so I can see more numbers coming in run 2. A bit of a rake builder situation for now with this first release. Cheers! Fran Hi Fran, That’s my plan as I’ve ordered the 12 of these and hopefully the same will follow with the alternate body type in the future with the handful of MTA’s/MFA’s I already have to mix in will produce a nice engineers rake. cheers Mark 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted July 29, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, MRDBLUE17 said: Hi Fran, That’s my plan as I’ve ordered the 12 of these and hopefully the same will follow with the alternate body type in the future with the handful of MTA’s/MFA’s I already have to mix in will produce a nice engineers rake. cheers Mark Hi Mark, All part of the plan! Cheers! Fran 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 hours ago, MRDBLUE17 said: Hi Fran, That’s my plan as I’ve ordered the 12 of these and hopefully the same will follow with the alternate body type in the future with the handful of MTA’s/MFA’s I already have to mix in will produce a nice engineers rake. cheers Mark Bear in mind that you can team them up with Hornby ones. 7 different Hornby ones were available new in recent history, a one off, a 3 pack and then 3 in the pack with the 67 in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, TomScrut said: Bear in mind that you can team them up with Hornby ones. 7 different Hornby ones were available new in recent history, a one off, a 3 pack and then 3 in the pack with the 67 in it. But the incorrect underframe height of the Hornby version will be very noticeable if mixed with correctly dimensioned Accurascale versions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted July 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2021 17 hours ago, G-BOAF said: Us present day preservation modellers would appreciate these fine models, but can't justify a whole pack of long-scrapped vehicles.... You need the four preserved by the National Wagon Preservation Group: HMA 355798 HAA 354966 CDA 353224 (HAA conversion rather than new build) HAA 354456 Steven B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, Steven B said: You need the four preserved by the National Wagon Preservation Group: HMA 355798 HAA 354966 CDA 353224 (HAA conversion rather than new build) HAA 354456 Steven B Would happily take a pack of three of four.... if Accurascale are willing...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 12 hours ago, TomScrut said: Bear in mind that you can team them up with Hornby ones. 7 different Hornby ones were available new in recent history, a one off, a 3 pack and then 3 in the pack with the 67 in it. Hi Tom, Thanks for the suggestion but I had a 3 pack of Hornby’s first version with the high body which I sold a while back and I do have the later version triple pack which I will also be selling to make way for the Accurascale versions. I’ve reduced the MTA’s/MFA’s to just the ones I want to mix in and I’m quite happy to wait for the other body type from Fran & the team which will eventually give a set 30 odd wagons long. The Accurascale MHA’s from what we’ve seen already will be far better in so many aspects I’m more than happy to wait for them. thanks Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) On 30/07/2021 at 10:49, markw said: But the incorrect underframe height of the Hornby version will be very noticeable if mixed with correctly dimensioned Accurascale versions. I am just thinking about how big a difference this is. @Accurascale Fran @McC are the livery pictures on the site based on CAD? I have had a go at scaling the pic to suit the length of the Hornby MHA box, lining the top of the box up and then to see how big the difference is on the chassis. Looks to me like the Hornby is a couple of mm taller if the images are based on CAD, my pics were taken from a distance with 10x zoom to minimise perspective error but it is still evident. That leaves me in a bit of a quandary, as it may look fine or stick out like a sore thumb. At least in my current rake of 7 MHAs I also have 4 JNA falcons, I could separate the 2 different types of MHA with the JNAs. Edited August 11, 2021 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted August 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2021 It would probably be closer to match the wheels for example which should in theory be the same. The livery drawings are side profiles from the CAD. There are also side on photos you can try match 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 On 30/07/2021 at 10:49, markw said: But the incorrect underframe height of the Hornby version will be very noticeable if mixed with correctly dimensioned Accurascale versions. Am I correct in thinking that the Hornby ones use 14mm wheels? Could you lose the extra height on the Hornby vehicles by substituting the nominally 12mm wheels, fitting brake discs on one wheel of each axle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 The difference is 2mm, and the Wheels are 14mm, but replacing them with 12mm will only reduce the height by 1mm. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted August 11, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2021 If it helps we will be extending to all variants and liveries on them over time. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted September 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2021 Hi everyone, HAA MGR and CDA China Clay Hopper Wagon Update! Our latest all new wagon project, the iconic MGR family of HAA wagons and its many derivatives such as the CDA China Clay hopper, was announced in early June. Both production and sales have been swift to say the least! Over 50% of our allocation is now sold out, with retailers also reporting strong sales across all types of the HAA family. As you can see below, production of the first batch is progressing nicely, with the original HAA, HCA and CDA due to finish production in December and arrive in Q1 2022. Decoration is currently underway on these ahead of final assembly. The second batch of the first production run featuring the MHA, HDA, HMA and HBA will arrive in Q2 2022! Our wagons feature a wide variety of separately applied detail, a diverse tooling suite to offer a large range of detail variation and bespoke artwork for individual wagon differences and numbers. With each three pack priced at just £74.95 each and a 10% discount when you buy two or more packs direct from our website they offer unbeatable bang for your buck! Check out the first run packs on our website and place your pre-order today: https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/merry-go-round-mgr and the CDA: https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/cda-china-clay Cheers! Fran 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted September 22, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2021 Hi everyone, Our HAA/MGR family of wagons is progressing through the decoration process. With painting now complete, tampo printing is now under way, with assembly due to commence next week! Cheers! Fran 12 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Question? Are all the freight brown ones hop-AB ? Or are some tops with HAA data panels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mophead45143 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, cheesysmith said: Question? Are all the freight brown ones hop-AB ? Or are some tops with HAA data panels? They are a mixture, I had the same question early on. If you open up the photos on each pack, the very last image is a computer mock up of the livery, rather than a photo of a physical sample. Essentially, packs 1 & 2 are pre tops, and coded HOP AB. Packs 3 & 4 are post tops, coded HAA. The style of the data panels vary between each pack, as they did in real life, and I assume the mock ups represent how Accurascale are planning on portraying them. As I model the transitional late 70's, all four packs are suitable for me! Cameron 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted November 25, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Hi everyone, Good news! The first production samples arrived with us this week for assessment. The first delivery of these wagons will arrive in stock towards the end of Q1, 2022 consisting of the HAA, HCA and CDA. These will then be followed by the remaining MHA, HDA, HMA and HBA which will arrive in Q2 2022. We have recently updated our website to show artwork for all wagons, so make sure you have a browse and see the artwork for each wagon in each pack. MGR: https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/merry-go-round-mgr CDA: https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/cda-china-clay MHA: https://accurascale.co.uk/collections/mha-wagons Cheers! Fran Edited November 25, 2021 by Accurascale Fran 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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