spikey Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I have need of a varnish or laquer with which to put a matt protective coating over models painted with acrylics. Brush or rattlecan application will work for me, and it's a proper matt I need - not semi-matt, satin or almost-matt. Any suggestions please folks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Humbrol Clear. Available in matt, satin and gloss. It's virtually Humbrols version of the stuff that modellers were recommending called Johnsons Klear. Watch the video about it here. https://uk.humbrol.com/products/clear-matt-125ml-ac7434 Jason 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 The two brushed flat/matt varnishes I use, namely Vallejo and Testers do not produce an absolutely dead flat finish. More of a slight satin finish. It is essential to shake or mix these before application. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 Thank you, gentlemen. That Humbrol stuff is readily available locally, so I'll give it a go tomorrow ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) I often use this stuff, dries very Matt, if you google it you will find a lot of military modellers use it. I don't like using the airbrush much because of the hassle of cleaning it afterwards, but if you dilute this first it sprays easily and you can just run water through to clean after using it. *please ignore the photo as its wrong - I should have linked to a photo of their Matt varnish - see posts below Edited July 21, 2021 by 101 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted June 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeff Smith said: The two brushed flat/matt varnishes I use, namely Vallejo and Testers do not produce an absolutely dead flat finish. More of a slight satin finish. It is essential to shake or mix these before application. Hi Vallejo will produce a perfect Matt finish if sprayed with an airbrush. I found the Testors Dull Coat even when sprayed from one of their aerosol cans went slightly satin. Cheers Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkersson Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Ammo Lucky Varnish, produced by Mig is available in an ultra-matt which is very flat 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblestripe Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Another vote for W&N Galeria, I don't even think you need to airbrush it. It is very "runny" but applied with a soft flat brush I've never had a problem with brush marks just make sure you get a thin coat so no pooling. Might need two coats but dries perfectly clear with no colour distortion and I have models that must be ten years old and no hint of yellowing. Maybe the very slightest hint of satin like an unglazed porcelain? Careful though, the product illustrated by the esteemed Mr 101 is a Matt Medium for adding to pigment, you need the Matt Varnish in the same yellow themed packaging. They also do a slightly more expensive "Professional" product which I have not tried but promises to be better... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michl080 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 hi there, AK Ultra-matte varnish (AK183) is the mattest one I ever used. It is acryl-based and is too matt for weathered scale models. It appears more like a mineral surface. The right material if you want it VERY matt. Michael 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I have had some perfectly flat results with humbrol acrylic matt varnish spray. I have also used gamesworkshop purity seal with good matt results but this must be sprayed in perfect conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEAMYAKIMA Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 30/06/2021 at 18:31, westernviscount said: I have had some perfectly flat results with humbrol acrylic matt varnish spray. I have also used gamesworkshop purity seal with good matt results but this must be sprayed in perfect conditions. I see that you mention the acrylic version, my local model shop only has the enamel version - has anyone got a good word to say for the emanel 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernviscount Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: I see that you mention the acrylic version, my local model shop only has the enamel version - has anyone got a good word to say for the emanel From my experience....no! I have had terrible results. Mainly powdery/frosty finish and clogging despite the inverted spray technique. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Roger Sunderland Posted July 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 21, 2021 Please don’t use Humbrol Clear. Appalling product and certainly not like the old Johnston Kleer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted July 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 14/06/2021 at 13:36, spikey said: Thank you, gentlemen. That Humbrol stuff is readily available locally, so I'll give it a go tomorrow ... Well, @spikey, how did you get on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morley Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, TEAMYAKIMA said: I see that you mention the acrylic version, my local model shop only has the enamel version - has anyone got a good word to say for the emanel No! It usually dries nearer gloss than matt and is almost guaranteed to crinkle transfers of all types. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) On 17/06/2021 at 14:42, Rumblestripe said: Careful though, the product illustrated by the esteemed Mr 101 is a Matt Medium for adding to pigment, you need the Matt Varnish in the same yellow themed packaging. They also do a slightly more expensive "Professional" product which I have not tried but promises to be better... Just noticed this, many apologies as Rumblestripe has correctly pointed out, I linked to the wrong thing. this is what I actually use - don't know why I didn't just take a photo in the first place! Edited July 21, 2021 by 101 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Roger Sunderland said: Please don’t use Humbrol Clear. Appalling product and certainly not like the old Johnston Kleer. I have used the gloss a lot, not just for railways, and find it fine. However, don't touch the matt and satin with a bargepole.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Flashheart Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 21/07/2021 at 23:21, Ben Alder said: I have used the gloss a lot, not just for railways, and find it fine. However, don't touch the matt and satin with a bargepole.... Likewise I've used the gloss quite a bit and had no problems,what issues did you have with the others?. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Blooming, badly....I have also had customers return both versions, so it wasn't just me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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