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7 hours ago, 96701 said:

Oooooooooooo. The claws are out.

Use to levers not knobs?

Whilst in slagging mode.....thought you where a electrical engineer? Just look at your layout wiring....dam its neat and it works all the time........you win

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On 03/12/2021 at 09:13, newbryford said:

I'm sure the Cavalex team are working hard behind the scenes to make a superb model even better.

More importantly - when will it be here?

Give them chance.

 

My comment wasn't a criticism or sign of impatience, it was just curiosity. More than happy to be patient to ensure we all get the best model possible. 

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16 minutes ago, atom3624 said:

Is it too early to estimate, or can deliveries possibly start by end Q2 2022 do you think?

We see one interesting detail presented by A/Scale in their forthcoming locomotives - dashboard lighting. Is this a consideration?

 

Many thanks,

Al.

And a driver with smoking tab perhaps eh.........

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4 hours ago, atom3624 said:

Is it too early to estimate, or can deliveries possibly start by end Q2 2022 do you think?

We see one interesting detail presented by A/Scale in their forthcoming locomotives - dashboard lighting. Is this a consideration?

 

Many thanks,

Al.

Do you know how dim desk illuminations wehere on a 56?

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1 hour ago, bradfordbuffer said:

Do you know how dim desk illuminations wehere on a 56?

Pretty much like most locos*, only just bright enough to light the dials without taking your night vision away. 
 

Roy
 

*apart from some recent designs that seem to have forgotten about night vision. 

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3 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:

Pretty much like most locos*, only just bright enough to light the dials without taking your night vision away. 
 

Roy
 

*apart from some recent designs that seem to have forgotten about night vision. 

56s fitted with (at least the ones we had on gladstone to fiddelers mgrs) incredibly dim greenish dim illuminated dials like a old cheap watch ....only any good if in the middle of a tunnel as any ambient light it washed dials out ! 

 

As regards to modern stock 221s 220s was like having a 60w bulb lit in cabthat when on 'dim' setting pulsed in sync with engine revs! Progress

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The speedo illumination is shocking on the colas and GB 56s whereas the brake gauges and ammeter are bright, many a time I’ve had to put a lamp next to the speedo or have the cab light on to see it at night 

 

I seem to remember one of the colas 56s has an LED illuminated speedo fitted 

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11 minutes ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

Does the hotplate glow you make your tea on then,must have some light in the cab,and it would make it warmer........

 

No glow to show hotplate on just the smell of burning rubber when you fall asleep (in secondmans side! Before some smart forum commenter makes a quip!)....or a nice member of 'staff'☆ smears a bit of milk and sugar on cold hot plate so when you switch on for boiling your water up for a brew...a lovely aroma fills the cab!

 

 

 

☆can't post what I would like to say! Ment to be adult staff!

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17 hours ago, bradfordbuffer said:

No glow to show hotplate on just the smell of burning rubber when you fall asleep (in secondmans side! Before some smart forum commenter makes a quip!)....or a nice member of 'staff'☆ smears a bit of milk and sugar on cold hot plate so when you switch on for boiling your water up for a brew...a lovely aroma fills the cab!

 

 

 

☆can't post what I would like to say! Ment to be adult staff!

Ha ha,reminded me of putting mince pie on customers exhaust when servicing in the escort and cortina days as once hot the smell was wafted into car and made one hungry.Good jobi did not like fish i guess.I digress

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1 hour ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

Ha ha,reminded me of putting mince pie on customers exhaust when servicing in the escort and cortina days as once hot the smell was wafted into car and made one hungry.Good jobi did not like fish i guess.I digress

I use to get from a cake shop in Appleby a warm garlic and mushroom pie , we got the lady in the shop to put it in to foil and when on the class 60 at kirkby thore put it on top of engine cylinder head, the train then was ran to kingmoor new yard to run round as pathed after the 17 somthing passenger train to leeds we had a hour or so 'brew' time and of course a nice warm pie! Then a leisurely trip over s and c to skipton for a Knottingley driver to take over....and thay paid me! Crazy!

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48 minutes ago, bradfordbuffer said:

I use to get from a cake shop in Appleby a warm garlic and mushroom pie , we got the lady in the shop to put it in to foil and when on the class 60 at kirkby thore put it on top of engine cylinder head, the train then was ran to kingmoor new yard to run round as pathed after the 17 somthing passenger train to leeds we had a hour or so 'brew' time and of course a nice warm pie! Then a leisurely trip over s and c to skipton for a Knottingley driver to take over....and thay paid me! Crazy!

Oops tread drift gone from 56s to 60s to pies....sozzzz...I'll sit in corner again

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Going back to class 56 instrument lights - there weren't any originally. The 'light' was from a radioactive material painted onto the rear of the dials, similar to old watches etc.

 

Some of the current 56's in traffic have been modified with LED instrument lights, but not all.

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57 minutes ago, 37038 said:

Going back to class 56 instrument lights - there weren't any originally. The 'light' was from a radioactive material painted onto the rear of the dials, similar to old watches etc.

 

Some of the current 56's in traffic have been modified with LED instrument lights, but not all.

They were indeed !!! I also was told that Toton TMD had to be registered as a nuclear installation in case all 135 we in the vicinity !!! I never worked out if tha was true or not !!

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1 hour ago, 37038 said:

Going back to class 56 instrument lights - there weren't any originally. The 'light' was from a radioactive material painted onto the rear of the dials, similar to old watches etc.

 

Some of the current 56's in traffic have been modified with LED instrument lights, but not all.

Yep

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5 minutes ago, blueeighties said:

I guess not.

Given how everything seems to be fluctuating at the moment, speculation of a changing price probably wouldn’t do a company trying to build a customer base any good. Look at the uproar when Bachmann and Hornby changed prices. Although I believe it was said it was going to be on par with other high detail models. So DC £170-£230? Not a criticism of Cavalex at all, it seems entirely sensible not to give promises of something you can’t keep. But may cause and issue budgeting. And once you pay your deposit, a chunk of the price has gone down already. 

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4 hours ago, Class 158 productions said:

Given how everything seems to be fluctuating at the moment, speculation of a changing price probably wouldn’t do a company trying to build a customer base any good. Look at the uproar when Bachmann and Hornby changed prices. Although I believe it was said it was going to be on par with other high detail models. So DC £170-£230? Not a criticism of Cavalex at all, it seems entirely sensible not to give promises of something you can’t keep. But may cause and issue budgeting. And once you pay your deposit, a chunk of the price has gone down already. 

So how come every other company that sells product manages to set a price from the get go? Just strikes me as exceptionally odd business practise.

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24 minutes ago, blueeighties said:

So how come every other company that sells product manages to set a price from the get go? Just strikes me as exceptionally odd business practise.

 

Maybe because they've produced other locomotives or stock previously and have some idea of what the production costs will be.

 

I'm sure the price will be announced when development is far enough along to know exactly what the costs are.

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1 hour ago, blueeighties said:

So how come every other company that sells product manages to set a price from the get go? Just strikes me as exceptionally odd business practise.

 

Cav has intimated the price earlier in this thread.

 

Not every other company gets the price right from the "get go". Look at the retooled Bachmann 158. Originally about £100 and eventually came out at £200 plus (albeit 7 years on from announcement)

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