cctransuk Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Copyright unknown I am seeking more information concerning the above unit, which I believe was allocated to BR(SR); (not least because of the attached loco and PW brakevan). In particular, I would welcome information as to the wording on the long panel attached to the WARWELL, and the unit's number. The photo would seem to indicate that the cranes were painted in BR crimson and cream, and the lettering panel on the WARWELL also appears to be cream, possibly with crimson lettering. I am guessing that the WARWELL was painted black. Any information would be gratefully received as I am about to model the unit, using a Hattons WARWELL and a couple of Hornby Coles cranes; (which will have their jibs replaced to match the prototype). Many thanks in anticipation. John Isherwood. Edited July 30, 2021 by cctransuk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted July 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2021 Nice photo. Can't help with the details I'm afraid other than to say the wording on the WARWELL could be as simple as "Not to be loose shunted". But I'm sure someone with more knowledge will confirm what it actually says. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, iands said: Nice photo. Can't help with the details I'm afraid other than to say the wording on the WARWELL could be as simple as "Not to be loose shunted". But I'm sure someone with more knowledge will confirm what it actually says. Thanks for that - I had wondered about 'Not to be loose shunted', but couldn't reconcile this with what can be made out of the word length and spacing. John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, cctransuk said: Copyright unknown I am seeking more information concerning the above unit, which I believe was allocated to BR(SR); A little more research has turned up quite a bit more info'. The illustrated unit is TRU No.6, (or is identical to it), which was converted from DM721234 - an ex-WD WARWELL which had been initially converted into a BOGIE BOLSTER B. There is a photo of TRU No.6 in 'BR Departmental Rolling Stock' (Larkin / Bradford Barton) with a lengthy caption, and the lettering on the chassis panel is clearly 'NOT TO BE LOOSE SHUNTED'. This second photo was taken at Hoo Junction in 1970, and illustrates the unit in departmental yellow with black lettering; black chevron stripes on the crane counterweights, which also carry the COLES logo in black, and 'KEEP CLEAR' in red on a white panel. It is clear in both photos that the crane cabs have been modified from standard in order to remain within the railway loading gauge. John Isherwood. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Thats the first colour photo I've seen. I'm aware of two photos in books David Larkins original wagon books for Bradford Barton in the late '70's Departmental rolling stock has aphoto that I would judge to be in BR yellow with wasp stripes on only the counterweight, a coles logo on the c/w, a central 'KEEP CLEAR' on the c/w and 'NOT TO BE LOOSE SHUNTED' on the right hand crane AND on the board in the web of the well frame., and TRU No 6 on the left hand crane. based on warwell DM721234 and photographed at Hoo Jct in 1970. Its quite well exposed, so like many of his photos it may have been re-used in his more recent Kestral/Noodle books. The other photo is in the Mitchell/Smith Middleton pPress book Guildford to Redhill, its shown in use at Guildford and has wasp stripes on the 'inner' face of the crane body (underneath the jib) also has Coles logos on a plate on the jib, which dont seem to be present on the Larkin photo. Unidenntified, but dated 18th March 1970. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 looks like we were looking at the same book at the same time! Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) These of any use ? : - TRU 7 on DM721282 - Elmers End : 16/7/78 Edited October 2, 2023 by Wickham Green too photos reinstated 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGT1972 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Two very nice photos. There were two of these - TRU6 (on DM721234) and TRU 7 (on DM721282), both converted in 1962. When the CEPS system was introduced in the mid 1970s they became DRB78117 and DRB78118 respectively. Other than the cab modification to fit the loading gauge they were stock Coles products. The concept was updated in 1969 when TRU12 and 13 arrived (DRB78119/120), these using a pair of British Hoist & Crane Tourmaline Iron Fairy cranes giving a more modern appearance. They'll make a fine model. Hywel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 16 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: These of any use ? : - TRU 7 on DM721282 - Elmers End : 16/7/78 Spot on !!! Thank you. All I need to undertake the crane cab mods., and the two Coles cranes arrived in today's post. John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipbadger Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) I've had the wagon and two Coles cranes on the round tuit shelf for a while so will be interested to see how you get on. It was only a week ago I pulled a rather poor print out TRU6. I went to find the URL for you and initially thought it showed the other side of the brake van, closer examination shows that the picture has been printed back to front! In fact I've just realised it's the reverse of the one you initially posted, doh! This one does at least have the copyright owner on the photo. Tony Comber Edited July 31, 2021 by shipbadger Dawning realisation. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) TRU6 from about 0:40 on Jon Edited March 9, 2022 by jonhall 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Ahhh tipping Mermaids by hand we used to have such fun on those long ago Sundays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Connecting another couple of photos to this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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