Moderators Popular Post AY Mod Posted August 3, 2021 Moderators Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2021 A BRAND NEW BRUSH FROM BACHMANN BRANCHLINE In a surprise announcement ahead of its Autumn 2021 British Railway Announcements, Bachmann Europe Plc today revealed that it has developed all-new models of the iconic Brush Type 4, Class 47 Diesel Locomotives for its Bachmann Branchline OO scale range. Owing nothing to its predecessors, development of the new Bachmann Branchline Class 47 began several years ago and, using original drawings, diagrams, site visits and surveys of real locomotives, Bachmann has created an unrivalled model of British Rail’s most prolific first generation mainline diesel locomotive. In a comprehensive video presentation, Bachmann Europe’s Production Development Manager, Dave Parsons joined Richard Proudman, Communications Manager, to discuss the project in great detail, showcasing the extensive suite of tooling that has been developed in order to produce accurate models of the majority of the 512-strong fleet throughout their working lives – a breath-taking endeavour considering the Class has been active for 59 years and counting. Bachmann have long led the way in bringing new innovations to the British market and the Class 47 continues this trend with the introduction of a motorised fan system – the first of its type ever seen on a British-outline, OO scale model. The twin radiator fans, a prominent feature of the Class 47 when viewed from above, are operated by a dedicated motor, with fan rotation configured within the DCC decoder to provide rotation of both fans when the model is operated on either DCC and analogue control. This ground-breaking feature adds to the already impressive specification which includes a new Dual Fitted speaker system for authentic sound reproduction and extensive lighting features including engine room lighting, all of which can be controlled independently when operated on DCC. Movement is provided by the five pole motor which is fitted with twin flywheels, driving all axles and with electrical pickup from all wheels. Each axle runs in a pair of separate metal bearings, located in the diecast metal bogie towers which are fitted to the diecast metal chassis block, resulting in a total weight for the finished model that is some 10% greater than its predecessor. Every Class 47 offered will be produced in three formats, with standard versions ready for use on analogue control out of the box and with a Plux22 DCC decoder socket for those consumers wishing to fit their own DCC decoder. SOUND FITTED models will also be offered and these versions are pre-fitted with a ESU Loksound V5 DCC Decoder, whilst a new SOUND FITTED DELUXE format has been introduced for those models that feature the new motorised fan system. In addition, the SOUND FITTED DELUXE specification includes windscreen glazing that has been treated with a specialist technique to replicate the tinting seen on the prototype. Like all Bachmann products, SOUND FITTED and SOUND FITTED DELUXE models will operate on both DCC and analogue control straight out of the box. When used on analogue control, a range of authentic sound effects can be enjoyed when power is applied, including a convincing engine start up procedure before the model moves – along with randomised rotation of the motorised fans on SOUND FITTED DELUXE versions. David Haarhaus, Managing Director of Bachmann Europe Plc said: “We strive to ensure that our customers, your local retailers, continue to purchase contemporary Bachmann models manufactured to the highest definition available today. We shall always review our existing portfolio, revisit previous subjects and where commercially viable invest in an updated Branchline or Graham Farish product. This is a well established policy here at Barwell, illustrated by the complete retooling of our N scale range and the replacement of many elderly OO scale items such as the J72 and Jubilee, alongside complete ranges of coaches and wagons as witnessed with the Thompson coaches to name just one.” David continued: “The 2021 Class 20 and Class 24 are completely new models in every detail. We hope our brand new Class 47, with the backing of the Bachmann Branchline brand, will light up the shelves and display cases of our customers around the world for many years to come.” With production of the first batch of models complete, details of the locomotives that will be arriving with Bachmann retailers this Autumn will be unveiled in the Autumn 2021 British Railway Announcements which premieres on YouTube at 0930 on Wednesday 4th August 2021. BACHMANN BRANCHLINE – ALL-NEW OO SCALE CLASS 47 SPECIFICATION The all-new Bachmann Branchline OO Scale Class 47 Diesel Locomotive features an unprecedented level of detail and technical features, details of which are as follows: Mechanism: - Five pole, twin shaft motor with two flywheels providing drive to both bogies - All axle drive - Electrical pickup from all wheels - Separate metal bearings fitted to each axle - Diecast metal chassis block and bogie towers - Diecast metal gearboxes, with gearing arranged for prototypical running speeds and haulage capabilities - 16.5mm (OO gauge) wheels to NEM310 & NEM311 standards with authentic profile and detailing - Detachable coupling pockets to NEM362 standards fitted to each bogie - Designed to operate on curves of second radius (438mm) or greater Detailing: - Brush-built and Crewe-built locomotives portrayed - Options for Original or Cut-Cab body style - Bogies constructed from multiple components featuring full relief detail - Rotating radiator fans, driven by an independent motor and gearbox, operated via a DCC function, or randomised when operated as part of the sound project on DCC and Analogue control (SOUND FITTED DELUXE models only) - Tinted windscreen glazing (SOUND FITTED DELUXE models only) - Separately applied metal detail parts, including grab handles, windscreen wipers and etched fan grilles - Sprung metal buffers - Each model supplied with a full set of decorated, model-specific bufferbeam pipework and accessory parts Lighting: - Directional lighting, switchable on/off at either end on DCC or Analogue control - Cab lighting, assigned to two DCC functions for separate switching of each - Separately switched Engine Room lighting - Authentic light colours and temperatures selected for each model based on era and application DCC: - Plux22 DCC decoder interface Sound: - Two quality speakers employed for optimum sound reproduction, fitted to every model as standard - ESU Loksound V5DCC Sound Decoder fitted to SOUND FITTED and SOUND FITTED DELUXE versions - Sound files produced specifically for the Bachmann Branchline Class 47 using recordings from real locomotives - SOUND FITTED and SOUND FITTED DELUXE models operate on DCC and Analogue control as supplied. On Analogue, an authentic engine start up sequence, including the momentary dimming of all lights during engine start up, and running sounds are produced when power is applied Livery Application: - Authentic liveries applied to all models - Multiple paint applications employed on each model using BR specification colours - Logos, numerals and text added as appropriate using multi-stage tampo printing using authentic typefaces, logos and colours - Etched metal nameplates, symbols and plaques included where appropriate Detail Variants: Countless variations are catered for to allow accurate models to be produced depending on the locomotive being portrayed, options include: - Headcode panel arrangements from as-built to current-day - Radiator Grilles - Roof exhaust cover - Steam Heat Boiler Ports/blanks - Cab roof vents - Cab mounted aerial - Windscreen Wipers - Cab Door Kickplates - Headlights, both Scottish ‘Car’ and High Intensity versions - ETH Equipment - Multi-operation jumper sockets - TDM jumpers - Class 47/7 multiple working jumpers and cooling pipes - Fuel and Water Tank arrangements - Water Tank fillers - Buffers - Bogie-mounted cab steps - Speedo Drives 35-410 OO Class 47/0 D1565 BR Two-Tone Green (Small Yellow Panels) £239.95 35-410SF OO Class 47/0 D1565 BR Two-Tone Green (Small Yellow Panels) £339.95 35-410SFX OO Class 47/0 D1565 BR Two-Tone Green (Small Yellow Panels) £369.95 35-411 OO Class 47/0 47012 BR Blue £239.95 35-411SF OO Class 47/0 47012 BR Blue £339.95 35-411SFX OO Class 47/0 47012 BR Blue £369.95 35-413 OO Class 47/4 47828 BR InterCity (Swallow) £239.95 35-413SF OO Class 47/4 47828 BR InterCity (Swallow) £339.95 35-413SFX OO Class 47/4 47828 BR InterCity (Swallow) £369.95 35-418 OO Class 47/0 47004 BR Railfreight Construction Sector £239.95 35-418SF OO Class 47/0 47004 BR Railfreight Construction Sector £339.95 35-418SFX OO Class 47/0 47004 BR Railfreight Construction Sector £369.95 35-419 OO Class 47/3 47375 'Tinsley Traction Depot' BR RF Distribution European £239.95 35-419SF OO Class 47/3 47375 'Tinsley Traction Depot' BR RF Distribution European £339.95 35-419SFX OO Class 47/3 47375 'Tinsley Traction Depot' BR RF Distribution European £369.95 36 6 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 No wonder that got a separate video before tomorrow’s Autumn announcements, they seem to have spent a fortune on this. To tool all the variants at the same time is a big change and the level of detail and added features are extremely impressive. David 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) So many options, details and a couple of new ideas... well done Bachmann! With other manufacturers showing what they can do, it's good to see Bachmann attacking this loco class with similar levels of detail. Look forward to hearing the new announcements Additional...I wonder if the BCC will do a special version of this loco as its next/future release? I was only thinking about it the other day, believing it never would happen with the current tooling but with the new tooling, maybe the option has been provided for... Edited August 3, 2021 by 97403_Ixion Added BCC comment... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Godfrey Glyn Posted August 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2021 Certainly looks very impressive and good to see Bachmann upping the game and competing effectively with the new boys on the block. all the best Godfrey 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIK Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Hi, Amongst many features I like that they have managed to replicate the windscreen coating. They say all parts are new - new motor?. I think their dual speaker symbol on the packaging may be confusing when customers come to look at new Bachmann DMUs. Good to see their Hong Kong employees get a mention. I admire their one million pound investment and holding off announcing it until it was nearly ready for sale. Sounds like a lot of model types if there are DC, DCC fitted and Sound variants of each of the many prototype variants. Regards Nick 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Good to see Bachmann working their way through the upgrading of existing D+E models. Finally, will we see the definitive Brush? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 This looks fantastic, I will admit my eyebrows were raised when I saw the fact it was a 47 (given there is another new tooling on the way) but the model itself looks brilliant (for what little I know about 47s). I like how they have given people the choice with the deluxe model, some people wouldn't want to pay the premium (on what is already likely to be the top end price wise) but it will be also a welcome feature to others. Until I know what the prices are I don't know what side of that fence I sit on, I do think fans are a good detail if separately powered as per this and the Cavalex 56. I find it interesting how they went to Zimo for a while on new releases but have gone back to ESU (pleases me as I only use ESU), I had thought it may be a reuse of the old file but they said it is brand new. I am interested in how the NEM socket works as it looked like it was a kinematic one but also looked like it was removable, I presume a bit like the Dapol 68 but neater as there isn't a plough to hide it behind here (and hopefully less droopy). Depending on what the actual announcements are I might have to be getting my hand in my pocket! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunnan Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) Just when I thought I'd got a handle on my pre-orders...my wallet is singing in a distinctly Bruce Dickenson tone right now. The features on show with these EPs look very interesting, pipping the Cavalex 56 to the motor driven fans too. One thing I note as an omission is the lack of a drive hold with the V5 decoder, but I think I can probably do without it even though its a nice to have, especially at being able to replicate so many different permeations of starting different loadings. I don't think I'm going to be alone in the impatient wait to see what liveries are in tomorrows announcement. Edited August 3, 2021 by Zunnan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Headlights, ribbed for your pleasure lol. 3 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Zunnan said: One thing I note as an omission is the lack of a drive hold with the V5 decoder. I've not used my Lokprogrammer for a while, but I expect drive hold is something which can be configured without destroying the sound project, but Bachmann have just chosen not to include it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted August 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2021 The 47 was the next obvious model, if they had waited any long Accurascale would have picked it off. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 First the Peaks, now a completely new 47 plus a 69. Bachmann are certainly fighting back now, I wonder how this might impact EFE going forwards - that had some use of Heljan models in the first draft of announcements, but a Peak and a 47 in direct competition with Heljan must alter that EFE relationship. What can we expect tomorrow in the main announcement? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Zunnan said: is the lack of a drive hold with the V5 decoder How do you mean? The LokSound V5 does have drive hold AFAIK, or do you mean the Bachmann project doesn't include it? Edited August 3, 2021 by TomScrut 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, JohnR said: The 47 was the next obvious model, if they had waited any long Accurascale would have picked it off. The project was instigated several years ago, hence the initial launch run is shipping now. 2 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I'm actually a bit p*ssed off about this. Announcing a whole range of models with just a few weeks to budget/save up is rediculous, especially with so much else in the pipeline (e.g. V2s, Accurascale Deltics to say nothing of progress on the Hornby 91) Yes so too is 6 year lead times, but surely a 12 month horizon is not too much to ask? On the plus side, I doubt they will be releasing a model I am intersted in in the first batch (I hope...) 2 6 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Flittersnoop said: I wish Bachmann well with the new Class 47. I find it interesting that they feel there is more profit to be made from revisiting a (admittedly ubiquitous) diesel class that has been widely available previously and a competitor is also working on, rather than introducing a model of one of the many DMU or EMU types that has yet to be offered in RTR, or even an industrial loco. Given the specification and the complexity of the tooling, these new Duffs aren't going to be cheap! It will take a lot to persuade me to buy one, especially as I have yet to embrace DCC. Because a 47 will sell more in numbers than a DMU or an industrial - and they may have more of these up their sleeves too, just not in this special announcement. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted August 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Flittersnoop said: Finally, there's the fact that these will be made in China at the time when China is threatening to sink our nice new aircraft carrier in the South China Sea - "Made in China" is increasingly becoming a problematic label for consumers. Where, I wonder, was the computer/tablet/phone on which you typed the above post, manufactured? If this is a problem for you you are going to have to give up a lot of things - assuming of course that they can be delivered in the first place. Cheers Darius 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Flittersnoop said: I find it interesting that they feel there is more profit to be made from revisiting a (admittedly ubiquitous) diesel class that has been widely available previously and a competitor is also working on Well, I am in the market for a class 47, I was not going to buy an old Bachmann one, don't know which one of the upcoming two I will buy as it will depend on what the releases from Bachmann are and the price. It is also worth noting that given Bachmann tend to take their time with things that this was probably in development before the other one but they kept quiet about it. On a completely unrelated note I wonder if there will be a Collectors Club one on launch? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, G-BOAF said: I'm actually a bit p*ssed off about this. Announcing a whole range of models with just a few weeks to budget/save up is rediculous, especially with so much else in the pipeline (e.g. V2s, Accurascale Deltics to say nothing of progress on the Hornby 91) Yes so too is 6 year lead times, but surely a 12 month horizon is not too much to ask? On the plus side, I doubt they will be releasing a model I am intersted in in the first batch (I hope...) I don't think it's unreasonable for a manufacturer to compete for our affections, rather than wait for others' new stuff to reach the retailers' shelves; that way lies bankruptcy. And, presently unlike the Hatton's Class 66 legion of initial releases, with no word yet of a second run, it was clearly stated in the presentation that the 47s are going to be the subject of a repeated issue programme featuring all the variants. 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: I'm actually a bit p*ssed off about this. Announcing a whole range of models with just a few weeks to budget/save up is rediculous, especially with so much else in the pipeline (e.g. V2s, Accurascale Deltics to say nothing of progress on the Hornby 91) Yes so too is 6 year lead times, but surely a 12 month horizon is not too much to ask? On the plus side, I doubt they will be releasing a model I am intersted in in the first batch (I hope...) And risk being pipped to the post? They already took a risk in doing this knowing Heljan will be releasing theirs within 12 months and who knows who else is working on one. Snooze you lose. would it suit you better if your chosen model is released in a subsequent batch? I guess not. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, 'CHARD said: I don't think it's unreasonable for a manufacturer to compete for our affections, rather than wait for others' new stuff to reach the retailers' shelves; that way lies bankruptcy. And, presently unlike the Hatton's Class 66 legion of initial releases, with no word yet of a second run, it was clearly stated in the presentation that the 47s are going to be the subject of a repeated issue programme featuring all the variants. Thought you'd disappeared off the face of the earth. But back on track..... With all that work, how much extra effort would it have taken to make it EM/P4 friendly - or even as options? 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Legroom Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Looking forward to a unnamed banger blue version. The sort that made us groan when it came into view back in the day. 12 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 WOW!! This is stunning and what a fantastic locomotive to 'retool' - nearly everyone's default favourite diesel! This looks simply fantastic - new addition the working fans - think there's a new 56 coming out with that. Love the glazing - why not default on all or have I missed something? Ribbed lamp lenses - nice touch. I hope the bogie frame surrounds are less problematic than the current one - always difficult to align properly once its been removed several times and the impression is it catches the gears slightly - perhaps that's just mine, but I have 2 and both are the same. Looks a new-style motor. Increased weight - don't think the previous had many issues - the '70' should be miles heavier, but that's the only Bachmann diesel I would complain about weight-wise. FANTASTIC - WELL DONE - RAISING THE BAR (in line with A/S and CavAlex ). Al. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post newbryford Posted August 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: I'm actually a bit p*ssed off about this. Announcing a whole range of models with just a few weeks to budget/save up is rediculous, especially with so much else in the pipeline (e.g. V2s, Accurascale Deltics to say nothing of progress on the Hornby 91) Yes so too is 6 year lead times, but surely a 12 month horizon is not too much to ask? On the plus side, I doubt they will be releasing a model I am intersted in in the first batch (I hope...) Are you having a laugh? Who would want to be a manufacturer with comments like that. 7 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted August 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2021 That’s a shame, I have all the 47s I need (cough, famous last words, etc……). 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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