RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted December 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2021 8 hours ago, rob D2 said: Anybody got a photo of the internals ? is it a step up from the running if the older one, which was a rather Grindy beast My experience of the previous version of the 47 is the same as for all my Bachmann diesels - smooth and virtually silent. When a Bachmann diesel does get growly it’s usually time for a pinhead drop of suitable oil on the motor bearings. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taliesin Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Well it appears that the blue and green sfx versions have sold out unless anyone knows different? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 31/12/2021 at 13:57, MikeParkin65 said: My experience of the previous version of the 47 is the same as for all my Bachmann diesels - smooth and virtually silent. When a Bachmann diesel does get growly it’s usually time for a pinhead drop of suitable oil on the motor bearings. Oh fair enough. My 47s are rather weak performers , all a tad noisy and nowhere near as good as a decent Hornby runner. in contrast most of the 37s , and the 45 are excellent and quiet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 1, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, taliesin said: Well it appears that the blue and green sfx versions have sold out unless anyone knows different? Pretty much sold out on pre order I think. Kernow advertised a green one on Facebook soon after release (presumably a cancelled order) for full RRP and that is the only one I’ve seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aureol40012 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 hours ago, taliesin said: Well it appears that the blue and green sfx versions have sold out unless anyone knows different? They sold out a few weeks ago, if not earlier. Blue SFXs are like the proverbial rocking horse droppings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb860 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 10 hours ago, aureol40012 said: They sold out a few weeks ago, if not earlier. Blue SFXs are like the proverbial rocking horse droppings. Well i hope Bachmann take heed of the Blue & Green SFX versions popularity and put them into production again. I dithered about pre ordering, and missed out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opelsi Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, steveb860 said: Well i hope Bachmann take heed of the Blue & Green SFX versions popularity and put them into production again. I dithered about pre ordering, and missed out. Yep - these are two everyday liveries Br Green + BR TOPS Blue domino headcode rather than special celebrities. As such they would have made up the bulk of locos in their day. Easy to add extras should an owner wish. Far harder to remove things like cantrail stripe or other adornments. Lets hope for further similar and useful run of the mill examples! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 The deluxe versions pretty much sold out within a day or two - I know I dithered for 24hrs before deciding to go for a deluxe Intercity 47, only to find they had sold out everywhere. Others have suggested it's probably due to them being a strictly limited run, possibly a "toe in the water" exercise by Bachmann to test the market for added value items, which sounds more than plausible, but I was nonetheless astonished to see just how quickly they sold out in not just the big box shifters but a number of smaller outfits I also use. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Indge Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Bure Valley Models had 2 of the Tinsley Depot Deluxe versions available this afternoon. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I’m amazed at the popularity of the most expensive variant . But maybe there was not many made and thus they sold out …. Even if I still earn’t a big salary , I wouldn’t be able to justify to myself £300 plus on an OO Loco 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 It is interesting to see how quickly the SFX versions sold out, and shows that there is a market for 'statement' toys with all the bells and whistles (quite literally...). I suspect this may influence future production quantities! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted January 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2022 I'd suggest that it might in part be that it is just after Xmas so people probably got money for Xmas, further enhanced by Omicron killing off a lot of normal Xmas pressie shopping? 40 minutes ago, Brian Indge said: Bure Valley Models had 2 of the Tinsley Depot Deluxe versions available this afternoon. They seem to be available in several places, not a popular variant. Footplate have 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, ruggedpeak said: I'd suggest that it might in part be that it is just after Xmas so people probably got money for Xmas, further enhanced by Omicron killing off a lot of normal Xmas pressie shopping? They seem to be available in several places, not a popular variant. Footplate have 3. Intetesting - demographically I thought sectorisation would be up and coming 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted January 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2022 The proof will be when the SFX version of 47004 is available, presumably at some point this month? Does not appear to be sold out on pre-order so perhaps sectorisation is not 'on trend'? I note that Kernow's Exclusive 47306 in RfD livery remains in its bargains section bundled with a Heljan Cargowaggon, so not a period that is a strong seller? The InterCity version is a lovely looking loco so I can see that selling, but I thought the Tinsley model was almost as good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class 158 productions Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Maybe the people that wanted that very 47 have already got it? So many clamoured for run of the mill bog standard duffs for years. Maybe people are more interested in the less tarted up ones? Will be interesting if future batches focus on show ponies or workhorses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47423 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 RfD not really a popular choice and a surprising one for the first run. 375 was done by Heljan some years ago and when Bachmann brought out their 365 that was a slow seller too. Kernow`s 306 has been around unsold for some time too. I bought 47004 in Constuction but that was only an impulse buy. What would have sold is Original Railfright like they brought out 47018 in 2mm , hopefully that might make batch 2. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, 47423 said: RfD not really a popular choice and a surprising one for the first run. 375 was done by Heljan some years ago and when Bachmann brought out their 365 that was a slow seller too. Kernow`s 306 has been around unsold for some time too. I bought 47004 in Constuction but that was only an impulse buy. What would have sold is Original Railfright like they brought out 47018 in 2mm , hopefully that might make batch 2. Yeh an original railfreight 47 in 4mm would be nice 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 A livery I don’t think Bachmann have ever done on a 47 is an engineering grey one (before Dutch yellow stripe). I wonder if it would sell..? Nor have they done a standard RF red stripe loco (only 301 with its additional white stripe). it’s hard to pick a sure first seller - my instinct is that Scotrail 47/7 or in earlier blue would sell but they have done 3x 47/7 already in Scotrail… maybe they should look to early versions of the old 47 where the liveries have not been repeated recently - intercity exec, parcels, RES maybe? Is demand there? I would buy a RF grey 47 but not long since regional version which seemed a slow seller? Tough call to make but I was surprised to see an RFD euro loco in first releases for reasons given above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taliesin Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Now that it’s been released and people physically have them I’m interested to know how they stack up quality wise against the SLW Class 24 ? The price points are similar so for those lucky enough to own both how does it measure up. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium younGGuns7 Posted January 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2022 The one for me would be a pre tops Blue namer, I would definitely stretch to a de lux version. Think this has only been done once b4 and that was a special IKB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, 47423 said: RfD not really a popular choice and a surprising one for the first run. 375 was done by Heljan some years ago and when Bachmann brought out their 365 that was a slow seller too. Kernow`s 306 has been around unsold for some time too. I bought 47004 in Constuction but that was only an impulse buy. What would have sold is Original Railfright like they brought out 47018 in 2mm , hopefully that might make batch 2. I think the reason the kernow one was a slow seller was , it was an easy renumber form the cheap 365 which hung around like you said. And it was linked to cornwall, but it never actually worked there, just sat and rotted at SBZ for ages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Matt said: A livery I don’t think Bachmann have ever done on a 47 is an engineering grey one (before Dutch yellow stripe). I wonder if it would sell..? Nor have they done a standard RF red stripe loco (only 301 with its additional white stripe). it’s hard to pick a sure first seller - my instinct is that Scotrail 47/7 or in earlier blue would sell but they have done 3x 47/7 already in Scotrail… maybe they should look to early versions of the old 47 where the liveries have not been repeated recently - intercity exec, parcels, RES maybe? Is demand there? I would buy a RF grey 47 but not long since regional version which seemed a slow seller? Tough call to make but I was surprised to see an RFD euro loco in first releases for reasons given above. I think a grey one like that wouldn’t be a good bet - none lasted in the grey more than a couple of years making it incredibly specific to 1989-1991 ish . And it was dull. Edited January 2, 2022 by rob D2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted January 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2022 I don't normally struggle when it comes to abbreviations etc, but "SFX"??? Presumably sound fitted something or other?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted January 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Gary H said: I don't normally struggle when it comes to abbreviations etc, but "SFX"??? Presumably sound fitted something or other?? I had the same problem, seems it's the Bachmann part number suffix for a loco with DCC sound and the fancy extras like rotating fans. Edited January 2, 2022 by spamcan61 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 59 minutes ago, Gary H said: I don't normally struggle when it comes to abbreviations etc, but "SFX"??? Presumably sound fitted something or other?? Sound Fitted EXtra 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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