pete_mcfarlane Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, roythebus1 said: Surely the REPS were converted from existing loco-hauled stock, so were not new build at all. The REP motor coaches were new. The trailers (and the entire 3/4TC trailer sets) were converted from loco hauled stock. The last Mk1s built were a batch of additional REP motor coaches in about 1974. That's the year before I was born, so definitely not that long ago 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, pete_mcfarlane said: The REP motor coaches were new. The trailers (and the entire 3/4TC trailer sets) were converted from loco hauled stock. The last Mk1s built were a batch of additional REP motor coaches in about 1974. That's the year before I was born, so definitely not that long ago As I understand it, the 1974 batch were all new build due to the unavailability of stock to convert for the trailer vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I was just wondering whether anyone had ever modelled the XP64 stock, and I think the answer is yes - I may be completely wrong here but "Arrowmouth" comes to mind. IIRC this impressive 'coastal' exhibition layout built by Redditch MRC used to feature some interesting late 60s stock many years ago, when few people modelled that era (not much change there.....) although their website is illustrating the earlier steam/diesel transition period. I'm sure it has been featured in magazines and I did see it once, most likely at Bristol. I think a RMRC member was keen on creating unusual coaching stock using plasticard in RTR conversions, including at least one XP64 coach. That's my recollection anyway, but my ever-ageing grey matter may be playing tricks on me...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, roythebus1 said: Surely the REPS were converted from existing loco-hauled stock, so were not new build at all. The REP Driving Motors were all new builds, with the centre coaches and 4 TC stock all rebuilt/refurbished loco-hauled coaches. I read somewhere that the TF coaches in the TC units were some of the oldest mark 1 coaches still in existence at the time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) The 1967 4-REP buffets were converted from RB restaurant buffets, the 1974 batch used RU restaurant cars. The Luggage First trailers were rebuilt from CK coaches. No new inner coaches for either build. There were plenty of Mk.1 coaches around in 1974, displaced by new build Mk.2e and 2f air conditioned stock. Edited August 18, 2021 by BernardTPM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 One of the excellent Parkin Mk1 Coaching Stock books has a photo of some XP64 stock being shunted at Oxford by a D63xx'er. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, BernardTPM said: ... The Luggage First trailers were rebuilt from CK coaches. .... Mk1 BFKs were a rare breed comprising merely 28 examples - York would've struggled to rustle up enough of them when they wanted to create Trailer Brake Firsts for the REPs. ( They may have had some specific purpose elsewhere, anyway.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddibus Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 18/08/2021 at 01:20, Halvarras said: I was just wondering whether anyone had ever modelled the XP64 stock, and I think the answer is yes - I may be completely wrong here but "Arrowmouth" comes to mind. IIRC this impressive 'coastal' exhibition layout built by Redditch MRC used to feature some interesting late 60s stock many years ago, when few people modelled that era (not much change there.....) although their website is illustrating the earlier steam/diesel transition period. I'm sure it has been featured in magazines and I did see it once, most likely at Bristol. I think a RMRC member was keen on creating unusual coaching stock using plasticard in RTR conversions, including at least one XP64 coach. That's my recollection anyway, but my ever-ageing grey matter may be playing tricks on me...... Hi you are quiet right Arrowmouth is one of our exhibition layouts at Redditch MRC and 2022 will mark 30 years on the exhibition circuit as well as 55 years of our Club. One of the trains we ran in the early days of the layout was a model of the XP64 rake. These were based around Lima mk1 coaches with scratch built sides. There is an article on how the coaches were built in an early edition of BRM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 16/08/2021 at 22:06, keefer said: The XP64 train was featured in 'Modern Railways' July 1964: https://www.flickr.com/photos/36844288@N00/albums/72157714338328452 Pic by David Christie on Flickr: When did they lose the wide doors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddibus Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Reddibus said: Hi you are quiet right Arrowmouth is one of our exhibition layouts at Redditch MRC and 2022 will mark 30 years on the exhibition circuit as well as 55 years of our Club. One of the trains we ran in the early days of the layout was a model of the XP64 rake. These were based around Lima mk1 coaches with scratch built sides. There is an article on how the coaches were built in an early edition of BRM Arrowmouth still going strong after nearly 30 years of exhibitions at the Great Electric Train show in October 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slilley Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 18/08/2021 at 11:42, Wickham Green too said: Mk1 BFKs were a rare breed comprising merely 28 examples - York would've struggled to rustle up enough of them when they wanted to create Trailer Brake Firsts for the REPs. ( They may have had some specific purpose elsewhere, anyway.) York didnt rustle them the Southern Region did all the locating of the stock including asking the other regions for various carriages that they needed for the REPs and TCs. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Reddibus said: Hi you are quiet right Arrowmouth is one of our exhibition layouts at Redditch MRC and 2022 will mark 30 years on the exhibition circuit as well as 55 years of our Club. One of the trains we ran in the early days of the layout was a model of the XP64 rake. These were based around Lima mk1 coaches with scratch built sides. There is an article on how the coaches were built in an early edition of BRM Do you have an issue number for this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted December 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2021 Found it, April 1994 should any one else fancy a read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 18/12/2021 at 11:52, russ p said: When did they lose the wide doors I want to say 1973 ish, certainly when I was making my model of a SK for 1977 they had gone. For anyone interested this was the build I did with Narrow doors The Rail Express article a few years ago was a god send, I can't recall the issue though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddibus Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 18/12/2021 at 15:12, rka said: Do you have an issue number for this? Hi December 1994 edition 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted December 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Reddibus said: Hi December 1994 edition I though it was the April edition according to Google. Oh well if I'm wrong I'm sure there will be something useful in the mag I bought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted December 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 22/12/2021 at 11:25, rka said: I though it was the April edition according to Google. Oh well if I'm wrong I'm sure there will be something useful in the mag I bought. Well I have taken delivery of the April edition and it has drawings and a short article, I'd best order the December one now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddibus Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 A link to our article that was in BRM on the construction of the XP64 coaches which used to be run on our Arrowmouth club layout http://redditch-mrc.com/images/Club Pictures/Magazine covers/XP64 BRM.pdf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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