Moderators AY Mod Posted September 10, 2021 Moderators Share Posted September 10, 2021 All steel ‘K-type’ Pullmans from Revolution Revolution is delighted to reveal its next range of N gauge coaches will be the much requested all steel 'K-type' Pullman coaches. The K-type Pullmans were the first all steel construction Pullmans in the UK. Parlour First "Zena" in the VSOE set at Bristol Temple Meads in April 2012. Photo courtesy of Hugh Llewelyn, Creative Commons CC BY-SA2.0 licence Metropolitan Cammell built 29 Pullman cars of 5 different body types: Kitchen 1sts and 3rds, Parlour 1sts and 3rds and Parlour Brake 3rds - we will offer all 5 body types in train packs to allow prototypical formations to be assembled. A further 4 cars (81-84) were built in 1931 for the Bournemouth Belle - we will include these if feasible from the tooling. Some of the K-types were used by the GWR on Ocean-Liner and Torquay Pullman services from 1929, but perhaps the more famous use was by the LNER and then BR in services such as the Queen of Scots, Tees-Tyne Pullman, Yorkshire Pullman and Master Cutler. By the mid-late 1960s some of the K-types were being used with other Pullman types (particularly the brakes) but unfortunately some were disposed of for scrap. A few of the K-types continue to see service in the Venice Simplon Orient Express (VSOE) and a number survive to this day in preservation. Our model will feature the same high levels of detail as our Mark 5 coaches and include interior lighting and working table lamps. The K-type Pullmans are in the final stages of research before we start CAD. We expect the order book for the K-type Pullmans to open late Q4 2021 – Q1 2022. 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I only have some of the older Farish coaches but these will help model the later scene. I have always been interested in the Pullmans, so a good call! Something to go behind Tornado? Will almost certainly get a rake... or two... Well done Revolution Trains (again in one day!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium RichardT Posted September 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2021 Quite superb Revolution: prototypes that can legitimately run from the 1930s to the present day! Awaiting order book opening with bated breath. Now, about those Raven Pacifics… (forget what I said above about 1930s to the present day.) RT 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted September 11, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2021 A taster of things to come? Don’t forget that Pullmans did not have curtains pre-war. Tim 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinTrucks Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 10/09/2021 at 11:01, AY Mod said: All steel ‘K-type’ Pullmans from Revolution Revolution is delighted to reveal its next range of N gauge coaches will be the much requested all steel 'K-type' Pullman coaches. The K-type Pullmans were the first all steel construction Pullmans in the UK. Parlour First "Zena" in the VSOE set at Bristol Temple Meads in April 2012. Photo courtesy of Hugh Llewelyn, Creative Commons CC BY-SA2.0 licence Metropolitan Cammell built 29 Pullman cars of 5 different body types: Kitchen 1sts and 3rds, Parlour 1sts and 3rds and Parlour Brake 3rds - we will offer all 5 body types in train packs to allow prototypical formations to be assembled. A further 4 cars (81-84) were built in 1931 for the Bournemouth Belle - we will include these if feasible from the tooling. Some of the K-types were used by the GWR on Ocean-Liner and Torquay Pullman services from 1929, but perhaps the more famous use was by the LNER and then BR in services such as the Queen of Scots, Tees-Tyne Pullman, Yorkshire Pullman and Master Cutler. By the mid-late 1960s some of the K-types were being used with other Pullman types (particularly the brakes) but unfortunately some were disposed of for scrap. A few of the K-types continue to see service in the Venice Simplon Orient Express (VSOE) and a number survive to this day in preservation. Our model will feature the same high levels of detail as our Mark 5 coaches and include interior lighting and working table lamps. The K-type Pullmans are in the final stages of research before we start CAD. We expect the order book for the K-type Pullmans to open late Q4 2021 – Q1 2022. Great News!!! Of course, one has to be the pedant and note that VSOE (now Belmond) modified Zena with additional conventional-looking underframe trussing. These Pullman cars did not have an underframe as such, as illustrated by Third Parlour No.83 (renamed Ann) on the K&WVR: Best regards, Martin 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2021 I foresee a good number of n gauge layouts with these coaches on in the future, and also a good number of the venerable Graham Farish coaches finding their way on to the second hand market. Thankfully for my finances, these only ran on the GWR during 1929 and 1930, before being replaced by GWR's own Super Saloons. So I feel no compulsion to purchase them, at the moment! I hope that these are great sellers for Revolution and it encourages them to look at other coaches in the future. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Hi, have you thought about doing the K type Pullmans in N gauge, the wooden versions in pre war (with Match Boards) and post 1955 versions? Thanks Fred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Fredo said: Hi, have you thought about doing the K type Pullmans in N gauge, the wooden versions in pre war (with Match Boards) and post 1955 versions? Thanks Fred Can they get the steel ones out first? 1 3 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted September 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2021 Great that these are coming out - would be interested to see what the options are - would be good to have some 2 packs for modern rail tours where they can be mixed in with other types. Also, they must run well with Farish MK1/2s and Mark 1 Pullmans. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 22 hours ago, MrSimon said: Great that these are coming out - would be interested to see what the options are - would be good to have some 2 packs for modern rail tours where they can be mixed in with other types. Also, they must run well with Farish MK1/2s and Mark 1 Pullmans. Other than the ones with VSOE (which don't mix with other rates) the only one seen near a mainline is PTB 232 (Car 79) on the NYMR dining train with an eclectic mix of the last original condition RF 324 plus on each of PFP and PFK Mk1 Met cams 321 and 328. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MrSimon Posted September 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2021 I don’t want the full VSOE set or only be able to buy large packs. Maybe just a pair of brakes or 2-3 parlour/kitchens would be sufficient. Even to run the VSOE the K types must couple reliably to Farish Mk1s because there’s usually at least one in the charter set next to the engine - maybe even mk2s depending on what’s being used a a support coach? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Bravo! About time we had some proper pullman's in N gauge. What sort of price point are we looking at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted September 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2021 Format and pricing will be announced when we open the order book likely to be late this year or Q1 2022. cheers Mike 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 For those interested, these are the ones concerned: 3 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted September 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2021 Just seen this on return from holiday. Excellent news. Thanks Mike and Ben. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted September 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2021 Nice to see Eastern Region Steam/Modernisation period getting some attention. Well done Revolution 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 On a layout with perhaps four years life before it retires (Croft Spa) can I justify the outlay for a nine coach Tees-Tyne Pullman rake? Especially as a year after Hawthorn Dene was retired and sold on the three Hunslet shunters I ordered for it many moons ago still haven't arrived........ Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted September 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2021 Definitely! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjh Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Fantastic news I will be definitey purchasing a full rake of these I wonder when these will be available to purchase. Many thanks, Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted October 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Chrisjh said: Fantastic news I will be definitey purchasing a full rake of these I wonder when these will be available to purchase. Many thanks, Chris A few posts above yours…. On 13/09/2021 at 20:38, Revolution Mike said: Format and pricing will be announced when we open the order book likely to be late this year or Q1 2022. cheers Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjh Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Excellent thanks Mike looking forward to placing an order for a full rake with lighting Best, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class8mikado Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Fingers crossed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Hello RevolutioN gents, Any news / updates on the Pullmans?? Graham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 17 hours ago, shanks522 said: Hello RevolutioN gents, Any news / updates on the Pullmans?? Graham. Hi Graham According to the RevolutioN website they are still at the "research" stage which I would take to mean pre-CAD. That said, the website also says order books were anticipated to open April/May so it could be an update is due soon, some projects don't seem to have been updated on there for a while (ahem - 128!). Regards Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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