RMweb Gold TravisM Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2021 I’m doing a little research on the Belmond British Pullman Pullman vehicles as I might like to attempt to recreate it, and I’m getting confused by which vehicle types make up the train. I know several are ex 5-Bel vehicles but which ones are these, also I’ve been told that several are Type K, again which one’s? If anyone could help with identifying which vehicle to which type, I would be most grateful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) Very little research - type Belmond British Pullman - into Google - in fact my research was so thorough I didn't even do that I highlighted your thread title and right clicked to give search google for... and then exhaustedly scrolled down to the fourth link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belmond_British_Pullman does mummy still need to say 'here comes the aeroplane' to spoon feed you? Edited September 14, 2021 by jonhall 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted September 14, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, jonhall said: Very little research - type Belmond British Pullman - into Google - in fact my research was so thorough I didn't even do that I highlighted your thread title and right clicked to give search google for... and then exhaustedly scrolled down to the fourth link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belmond_British_Pullman does mummy still need to say 'here comes the aeroplane' to spoon feed you? I try Googling but all I got was the official website, but thanks for the link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 There are four different 'generations' of Pullman used on the train: Older K type, originally wood framed bodies on steel underframes, wood since replaced with steel. 1928 all-steel K types 1932 ex-Brighton Belle 1951 Golden Arrow type, again originally wood framed, now rebuilt in steel. plus various support vehicles, mostly from BR Mk.1s. None of the Pullmans look as they did as built: trusses added, bogies changed, rectangular toilet windows replaced; every type is slightly different now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted September 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2021 14 hours ago, BernardTPM said: There are four different 'generations' of Pullman used on the train: Older K type, originally wood framed bodies on steel underframes, wood since replaced with steel. 1928 all-steel K types 1932 ex-Brighton Belle 1951 Golden Arrow type, again originally wood framed, now rebuilt in steel. plus various support vehicles, mostly from BR Mk.1s. None of the Pullmans look as they did as built: trusses added, bogies changed, rectangular toilet windows replaced; every type is slightly different now. Well, that kills that idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 The list may be slightly out of date for which vehicles are owned by VSOE A combination of Arnold 5 Bell and upcoming Revolution Steel K covers the majority of the stock. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 ...... if you add dummy truss rodding to type all-steel K class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted September 15, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 hours ago, BernardTPM said: Why? Because of my health issues, doing fine scale modelling correctly is difficult for me, not that I really have to explain myself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2021 On 15/09/2021 at 05:35, jools1959 said: I’m doing a little research on the Belmond British Pullman Pullman vehicles as I might like to attempt to recreate it, and I’m getting confused by which vehicle types make up the train. I know several are ex 5-Bel vehicles but which ones are these, also I’ve been told that several are Type K, again which one’s? If anyone could help with identifying which vehicle to which type, I would be most grateful. Are you OO Gauge or N Gauge? I’ve begun my own rake using Hornbys K-Type, All Steel K-Type, and Brighton Belle coaches using the latest release versions with NEM couplings. It’s not going to look 100% accurate but it will be passable. I’ll try and dig out my list if you’d like. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted September 17, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Hilux5972 said: Are you OO Gauge or N Gauge? I’ve begun my own rake using Hornbys K-Type, All Steel K-Type, and Brighton Belle coaches using the latest release versions with NEM couplings. It’s not going to look 100% accurate but it will be passable. I’ll try and dig out my list if you’d like. I’m modelling in OO gauge and your list would be great, much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbridge Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/results.asp Try this. It should give you a complete listing of the fleet. Oops it doesn't. Click on start new search, then go to Stewarts Lane in the location tab, scroll to bottom of page and hit search. Edited September 17, 2021 by Denbridge 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, jools1959 said: I’m modelling in OO gauge and your list would be great, much appreciated. No worries I’ll have a hunt for the coaches I’ve used and post it up for you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted September 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, jools1959 said: I’m modelling in OO gauge and your list would be great, much appreciated. Ok here’s my list. Minerva, Cygnus, and Ibis are the only ones that I didn’t change identities on because they came in the original VSOE boxed set, but I did remove the names and replace them with Railtec transfers so the colours matched the rest of the rake. Railtec do the full rake of transfers with a few extras included too. The LNER Baggage coach is included because I like it lol. But of course it’s not used in the modern day rake. The R4514 Brighton Belle coaches had their chassis changed with the the latest release of Brighton Belle, since the latest ones have NEM Tension Lock couplings and bogie wheel power pickups, as opposed to the special electric couplings on the original release. R4710 BR Mk1 BSK, Repainted Baggage Car No.11 R4642 BR Mk1 BG, modified and renamed Generator Car No.6313 R4514 Ex-Belle 1st Kitchen, Renamed Vera R4664 All Steel K-Type 1st Parlour, Renamed Zena R4514 Ex-Belle 1st Kitchen, Renamed Gwen R1038 K-Type 1st Parlour, Renamed Phoenix R1038 K-Type 1st Parlour, Minerva R1038 K-Type 1st Parlour, Renamed Perseus R4663 All Steel K-Type 1st Kitchen, Renamed Ione R1038 K-Type 1st Parlour, Cygnus R4514 Ex-Belle 1st Kitchen, Renamed Audrey R4664 All Steel K-Type 1st Parlour, Renamed Lucille R1038 K-Type 1st Kitchen, Ibis R4830 LNER 61’6” Baggage Car, Repainted Baggage Car No.7 Hope this helps. Edited September 17, 2021 by Hilux5972 Added info 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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