Porcy Mane Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Islesy said: Crickey! that's what I thought was a "cow" on the Stella wagons. So what was a cow I hear you ask? or probably not. It was attached to the rear wagon coupling and it's low end dragged along the ground. It prevented the wagons running "amane" (away) on inclines when the rope or a coupling failed. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Completely irrelevant to the models themselves but why is everyone on the video in the Accurascale blog pronouncing chaldron with a ch, as in church? According to the Chilton Ironworks book, and to various internet sources, the word is a derivation, or older spelling, of cauldron, so who has added this ch in speech? Surely it ought to be pronounced with a silent h, as in Christmas? That's how I've always said it. 1 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted October 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2021 Well Dave, I guess it depends on local dialects and pronounciations. Considering that Paul J at Beamish is a local, and that it’s a North-Eastern term, I’ll settle on his way of pronouncing it. To me, a Cauldron is a big pot, but then again, I’m from the sticky out bit of North Hertfordshire that’s neither Anglia, the Home Counties or the Midlands. I really won’t be judging anyone for how they pronounce the word… 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Ruston said: That's how I've always said it. Aye but who taught yer? In Co. Durham it the pronunciation depended on which town or village you came from and in some instances which part of the town or village you lived in. As I travelled around different collieries you soon learned that the same words could have different pronunciation and quite often a totally different meaning. Taking things to a regional level take the word "bait" in Co. Durham coalfield and "snap" in Yorkshire. Edited October 1, 2021 by Porcy Mane 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted October 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2021 One assumes it’s from the Middle French chauderon and this pronounced with a soft ch 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Islesy said: Well Dave, I guess it depends on local dialects and pronounciations. Considering that Paul J at Beamish is a local, I know Paul and he's from that famous Durham village of Manchester. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, McC said: One assumes it’s from the Middle French chauderon and this pronounced with a soft ch True, there is a great deal of Middle French spoken in Northumberland - must be the Percy influence. But chauderon is from the same root as cauldron. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Never mind, I'll get me coat... (and me flat cap and me whippet). 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Compound2632 said: must be the Percy influence. Thanks. Regardless of pronunciation I'm sure they'll fly of the shelves like hot cakes. We'll soon have the Dubliners all driving about in Chimeras (or Bentleys). I mean you don't even need track to run them on, as this pic of a rake of chummins* show. *Pitmatic for empty rail wagon or tub. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: True, there is a great deal of Middle French spoken in Northumberland - must be the Percy influence. My dear old Uncle Joe was a Percy from Northumberland (but from one of the impecunious branches of the family), He worked on the construction of Motorways driving a grader and was fluent in Anglo-Saxon. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted October 1, 2021 Moderators Share Posted October 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: dear old Uncle Joe ... from one of the impecunious branches of the family Didn't have two mint balls to rub together? 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, AY Mod said: Didn't have two mint balls to rub together? I'm sure he would have kept his equipment in good condition - but unused? Well, that's for @Michael Hodgson to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Islesy said: (picture courtesy of my good friend Mike King) Well that should get the Somerset & Dorset boys interested. 2 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Porcy Mane said: And variations were built in Australia (Newcastle). 6 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: They made it to France and Chile! ...maybe the second run will include French, Chilean and Aussie liveries! I know people have ideas about what Accurascale's next announcement should be, and which colliery company's dumb-buffered loco they will choose. Personally I'd like to see something more like this, though I don't think it would achieve the runaway sales I expect the chauldrons to produce https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:National_Railway_Museum_York_Oct_2013_281.jpg But I think they will pull another rabbit out of the hat and surprise us with something altogether more radical - such as erratically wavy NCB track that needs an uneven baseboard ! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoNick Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 "a common outline, for the transportation of coal, brick, timber, stone and ‘muck’ across the North East of England." I think I can model most of those loads ... muck in 00... not sure if Im up for that. incredible idea Accurascale... hope you sell cauldrons of em . 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ChicagoNick said: "a common outline, for the transportation of coal, brick, timber, stone and ‘muck’ across the North East of England." I think I can model most of those loads ... muck in 00... not sure if Im up for that. incredible idea Accurascale... hope you sell cauldrons of em . In colliery usage, 'muck' meant spoil; anything that had to be shifted to get at the desired commodity, rather than what we tend to associate with the word today. However, that's not to say the railway companies didn't move that around..... John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 2, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 Seaham, 1952. Milo is a beauty. Cheers! Fran 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 8 hours ago, ChicagoNick said: "a common outline, for the transportation of coal, brick, timber, stone and ‘muck’ across the North East of England." I don't think I've heard any mention of Accuraloads !!?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: I don't think I've heard any mention of Accuraloads !!?! Loads will be out at the same time as the wagons Think it was said in the vid 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 2, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, mozzer models said: Loads will be out at the same time as the wagons Think it was said in the vid Correct! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Apologies .... I did check the website before putting foot in mouth ! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 2, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Apologies .... I did check the website before putting foot in mouth ! No need to apologise, as you said they're not currently on the website. We are working on them at the moment and should have prices and availability on them in the coming weeks. Cheers! Fran 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Islesy said: Dave @Rustonasked about the magnetic couplings and, as is often the way, the first prototypes weren’t quite ready when the EPs shipped. @Accurascale Franhas added the pictures we received from the factory and there’s not much else I can really explain without having them to hand to demonstrate! In a nutshell, there’s a length of fine length chain attached to each coupling pin, and at the head is a housing containing a (very) small magnet. Of course, this works with the wagons, but how then to attach to a locomotive, or additional item of rolling stock? Well, each pack will come with at least two NEM fit magnetic couplings, something akin to the attached picture. These couplings with nems either side would be a very nice lazy way for a lot of different freight wagons. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Ruston said: I know Paul and he's from that famous Durham village of Manchester. From Manchester ? wouldnt that pronunciation be Chuldrun then ? Round the corner from me was the worlds first “railway”.., The Surrey Iron Railway and they used a form Chaldron in Coulsdon.. Edited October 2, 2021 by adb968008 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterfgf Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, adb968008 said: These couplings with nems either side would be a very nice lazy way for a lot of different freight wagons. Hope these are produced separately for use elsewhere. Peterfgf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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