Southernman46 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, cctransuk said: Weren't they originally intended for Chunnel trains to the Continent? CJI. and from and beyond Northwards ......................................... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25kV Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, 97406 said: I do wonder if the 3 windscreened design of the AL series locos was developed from the prototype “Class 80”. The original intent (at least according to a wooden cab mock-up, built before the locos themselves) was to have the route indicator in the middle window, class 302-style, and a flush nose below. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted March 20 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20 12 minutes ago, 25kV said: The original intent (at least according to a wooden cab mock-up, built before the locos themselves) was to have the route indicator in the middle window, class 302-style, and a flush nose below. I used to have a magazine supplement on the early electrics and it had a photo of the mockup. It looked strange without the headcode box and I did try and find it before online but work got in the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 54 minutes ago, Southernman46 said: and from and beyond Northwards ......................................... Obviously - but, nonetheless, not a general purpose design. Rather, a specific design, for a specific purpose, requiring exceptional design criteria. CJI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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25kV Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, 97406 said: I used to have a magazine supplement on the early electrics and it had a photo of the mockup. It looked strange without the headcode box and I did try and find it before online but work got in the way. There was a side view in MRP Profile 7, but also this in Marsden's "The AC Electrics" , the caption for which suggests that a SR-style 2-digit headcode system was proposed for a period. The mock-up is from 1957, and its Southern counterpart appears to be lurking in the background. 😉 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted March 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23 Drove to the Rails Weekend Event today to look at a Dapol Mogul which was duly purchased. And then….in a small display cabinet cunningly situated on the counter were these……..I honestly wasn’t going to but I did.The beast in its original form seen by me as a state of the art exhibit at the railways part of The Festival Of Britain ,Waterloo East,August 1951. I’m now fully into my dotage… Whatever the motive,it is a cracking model. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted March 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23 (edited) On 20/03/2024 at 14:45, 25kV said: There was a side view in MRP Profile 7, but also this in Marsden's "The AC Electrics" , the caption for which suggests that a SR-style 2-digit headcode system was proposed for a period. The mock-up is from 1957, and its Southern counterpart appears to be lurking in the background. 😉 Yes! That's it! Looks quite strange without the headcode panel doesn't it! The slightly lower middle windscreen, too! Edited March 23 by 97406 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29 On 20/03/2024 at 14:45, 25kV said: There was a side view in MRP Profile 7, but also this in Marsden's "The AC Electrics" , the caption for which suggests that a SR-style 2-digit headcode system was proposed for a period. The mock-up is from 1957, and its Southern counterpart appears to be lurking in the background. 😉 Originally planned for oval buffers too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25kV Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: Originally planned for oval buffers too. Which only the AL4s managed to get right! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, 25kV said: Which only the AL4s managed to get right! Some would say it was the only thing right about the AL4s. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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