sc2016 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 https://www.revolutiontrains.com/cartic-4mm-from-revolution/ Information from Above Link: Quote Revolution Trains is offering the iconic Cartic-4 articulated car carrier in OO-gauge/4mm scale, to accompany the previously announced in N-gauge model. The models will be offered in original form with top rails in Motorail, MAT and Silcock & Collings liveries, in MAT and STVA liveries with mesh side screens and in Silcock & Collings versions with side screens and side screens with roofs. CAD is underway, and will be based on the research carried out for the N gauge model; CAD for the smaller version is now complete and the model is in tooling. Revolution will be opening the pre-order book for the 00 version soon. N gauge models can be pre-ordered here. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 Grrat announcement. on the other hand, Ben and Mike"s scheme to get me to remortgage my house steps up a gear. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troublesome Trucks Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Excellent 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 OMG. I’m going to be broke and living in the garage with all the must have new wagons coming out. sign me up 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 For those who only want one set, there were workings from Dagenham to Marcoft's wagon works at Burry Port, when Silcock and Collins were having the wagons fitted with lifting roofs. On the revenue-earning side, one or two sets could be found in Speedlink workings to Exeter, Gateshead and Stranraer. 2 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Great news. A long awaited gap being filled. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 When were these introduced into service? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, LNERandBR said: When were these introduced into service? 1965/6, IIRC; I remember 'Blue Peter' having a long feature about them, in the days of John Noakes and Valerie Singleton. K's were commissioned to produce a two-car set for those travel agents who handled BR bookings; a much finer set of mouldings than the Triang- Hornby version. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Fat Controller said: 1965/6, IIRC; I remember 'Blue Peter' having a long feature about them, in the days of John Noakes and Valerie Singleton. K's were commissioned to produce a two-car set for those travel agents who handled BR bookings; a much finer set of mouldings than the Triang- Hornby version. The Ford workings appear to have commenced in 1964 while Motorail use commenced in 1966. Lots of information here - https://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_014.php 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 BR had a single prototype in 1964 followed by production 1966-7 https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brcartic4 https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/matcartic https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/silcockcarticpja https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/matcartic4 https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/tolemancartic4 And some ideas for how to load them https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/carramp Paul 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) There is a market for plastic cars to go on these cartics, a train of metal cars will be a bit heavy Edited October 2, 2021 by owentherail Typo 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 I only ordered my borails and derivatives last night - now this. You guys and Acura are trying to clean me out. Oh well…. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growling Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Can anyone help me with modelling Scotland in 1990... presumably Bathgate would be about the only traffic flow? Would any of these have been used on Bathgate-Washwood Heath or any other traffic in Scotland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Wolf27 said: Great news. A long awaited gap being filled. Still not a grainflow though is it? 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 Great news, that’s another of my “must have” gaps being filled. Either two or three sets for me. Andi 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Growling said: Can anyone help me with modelling Scotland in 1990... presumably Bathgate would be about the only traffic flow? Would any of these have been used on Bathgate-Washwood Heath or any other traffic in Scotland? Please look at the links I supplied. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Growling said: Can anyone help me with modelling Scotland in 1990... presumably Bathgate would be about the only traffic flow? Would any of these have been used on Bathgate-Washwood Heath or any other traffic in Scotland? The Stranraer Speedlink usually had a couple on it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 8 hours ago, hmrspaul said: Please look at the links I supplied. Paul Some great material in there as always - my interpretation from these shots is that MAT ran a service carrying Peugeot cars to Bathgate (until?), and Tolemans ran a service carrying Ford cars from Dagenham to Aberdeen until at least 1984. I would assume both came up east coast via Millerhill? The one I can’t deduce is the single photo of a MAT wagon at Mossend. My modelling interests lie north of Mossend so particularly interested in the latter though “rule 1” applies frequently on my layout with Grangemouth docks in particular assumed to have seen a massive late 80s resurgence of all types of traffic.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growling Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, Matt said: Some great material in there as always - my interpretation from these shots is that MAT ran a service carrying Peugeot cars to Bathgate (until?), and Tolemans ran a service carrying Ford cars from Dagenham to Aberdeen until at least 1984. I would assume both came up east coast via Millerhill? The one I can’t deduce is the single photo of a MAT wagon at Mossend. My modelling interests lie north of Mossend so particularly interested in the latter though “rule 1” applies frequently on my layout with Grangemouth docks in particular assumed to have seen a massive late 80s resurgence of all types of traffic.. Agree, the one at Mossend intrigued me a lot too, so wondering if that was any regular flow. 4M77 ran until at least 91 via the East Coast ... I distinctly remember it coming through York in the evening. https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Bathgate Washwood Heath Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Patriot87003 Posted October 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2021 Cracking announcement! I remember seeing the Silcock Express a few times; always an impressive working along the WCML … and when assembling a Speedlink rake a few months ago, I was pleasantly surprised to see how many Cartic rakes were built and many found their way into Speedlink workings. I’m going to need a new fiddle/storage yard at this rate! In addition to the info sources listed in previous posts, I would also recommend Paul Shannon’s ‘Speedlink’ book as it contains details of many workings and formations, many including Cartics … https://www.waterstones.com/book/speedlink/paul-shannon/9780711036970 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growling Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Credit to the photographers due below. These seem to indicate electric hauled into the mid 90s with the Silcock wagons. https://www.flickr.com/photos/75784477@N08/50616595632/in/photolist-2mqQxC4-2mbiz4y-2gLzxa7-2kegy9M-2mboGU7-2jpuNqe-2jrpPnE-gtf6Sp-2mkoHB6-2miXNnC-2mjRCS5-Pz2KQN-FLSGHp-bqy2m6-2m5xA8H-2iNH7sZ-2jtFAYM-26q3DB1-2g5Fhee-8WDowk-6Vgyh1-2k7PhqG-d55rvQ-RqR3gC-8mZC8B-869fHX-6JPBoT-NCuGxR-rFAtmS-YY3xHX-ZdMSDS-JtHvk8-iHHtWG-55zuRo-w9wAso-2fHMzUJ-ZPHLdo-ZPHKBd-6VgyqQ-w4pCqS-7LCiL6-7v7rTh-TWSmUX-nnsvSJ-wT4AQq-273wpGj-gFN3aF-6Nceac-ZkQuKR-87bQkZ https://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmcgovern1/11630134984/in/photolist-VUm3nz-2hYQiNP-2kLftDk-2mhHBYt-2mgeAS7-zjq3Ph-zxbTM9-2hXxJoG-hb7myu-UAejqc-CyL29B-WwdJyU-9QSQMX-9PiBBg-9QVGx3-MzoQMN-Mv7YHV-Y79bE9-zH2NPE-8s8VK8-ntfmTF-N3Tf9g-LP65mN-dKv48m-Fci7To-iHHtWG-ts26Q8-AWkxAW-vScLSN-iHFyQz-PEWyfh-SpTWQn-eKYyJr-fPiU2A-6z2emf-CwBJBm-9ReFfN-8gPo6c-8RaQtE-FEZVHy-bgVeTv-dLSf2R-fc1dgR-nbL79Y-RXLmQK-6EmsVp-a1aL6L-6K6KE7-6K2w9k-9RfdXf https://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmcgovern1/11629761225/in/photolist-2mqQxC4-2jpuNqe-ghJVtX-2jrpPnE-Pz2KQN-rFAtmS-iHFyQz-2jrAmY4-2joFekW-2jDwerB-2jm7QzX-2jfaeHZ-phm8qL-GmBRCR-YuBmPF-2jjVusH-SQtynb-qNzQCz-2m63A2r-2gKocPw-gbe3hn-2h8o8EJ-2jqiBwM-2hUKUr4-2hSB3aR-2fJS3XC-2fKxjuS-2fmaagU-q1QTGY-2fG1J7S-faCoVM-2fHVBzk-uDgqNb-2iePrD9-Hb2wAa-2fG2r89-2fLEmoF-2eraSD4-2fG3MNp-2hXR1iJ-24PfoeK-2g62GoF-S2utZH-2g62pUZ-NZBVCW-2fByBGo-Hh8Axe-2g62tcv-H8CAXq-2g62vMc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growling Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Growling said: Credit to the photographers due below. These seem to indicate electric hauled into the mid 90s with the Silcock wagons. https://www.flickr.com/photos/75784477@N08/50616595632/in/photolist-2mqQxC4-2mbiz4y-2gLzxa7-2kegy9M-2mboGU7-2jpuNqe-2jrpPnE-gtf6Sp-2mkoHB6-2miXNnC-2mjRCS5-Pz2KQN-FLSGHp-bqy2m6-2m5xA8H-2iNH7sZ-2jtFAYM-26q3DB1-2g5Fhee-8WDowk-6Vgyh1-2k7PhqG-d55rvQ-RqR3gC-8mZC8B-869fHX-6JPBoT-NCuGxR-rFAtmS-YY3xHX-ZdMSDS-JtHvk8-iHHtWG-55zuRo-w9wAso-2fHMzUJ-ZPHLdo-ZPHKBd-6VgyqQ-w4pCqS-7LCiL6-7v7rTh-TWSmUX-nnsvSJ-wT4AQq-273wpGj-gFN3aF-6Nceac-ZkQuKR-87bQkZ https://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmcgovern1/11630134984/in/photolist-VUm3nz-2hYQiNP-2kLftDk-2mhHBYt-2mgeAS7-zjq3Ph-zxbTM9-2hXxJoG-hb7myu-UAejqc-CyL29B-WwdJyU-9QSQMX-9PiBBg-9QVGx3-MzoQMN-Mv7YHV-Y79bE9-zH2NPE-8s8VK8-ntfmTF-N3Tf9g-LP65mN-dKv48m-Fci7To-iHHtWG-ts26Q8-AWkxAW-vScLSN-iHFyQz-PEWyfh-SpTWQn-eKYyJr-fPiU2A-6z2emf-CwBJBm-9ReFfN-8gPo6c-8RaQtE-FEZVHy-bgVeTv-dLSf2R-fc1dgR-nbL79Y-RXLmQK-6EmsVp-a1aL6L-6K6KE7-6K2w9k-9RfdXf https://www.flickr.com/photos/keithmcgovern1/11629761225/in/photolist-2mqQxC4-2jpuNqe-ghJVtX-2jrpPnE-Pz2KQN-rFAtmS-iHFyQz-2jrAmY4-2joFekW-2jDwerB-2jm7QzX-2jfaeHZ-phm8qL-GmBRCR-YuBmPF-2jjVusH-SQtynb-qNzQCz-2m63A2r-2gKocPw-gbe3hn-2h8o8EJ-2jqiBwM-2hUKUr4-2hSB3aR-2fJS3XC-2fKxjuS-2fmaagU-q1QTGY-2fG1J7S-faCoVM-2fHVBzk-uDgqNb-2iePrD9-Hb2wAa-2fG2r89-2fLEmoF-2eraSD4-2fG3MNp-2hXR1iJ-24PfoeK-2g62GoF-S2utZH-2g62pUZ-NZBVCW-2fByBGo-Hh8Axe-2g62tcv-H8CAXq-2g62vMc Apologies... meant to say that was relevant to the Scotland / Bathgate workings. Going via WCML this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 A couple more from Flickr Class 47 Cars to Bathgate by Keith McGovern Collection Class 90 From Bathgate by Keith McGovern collection 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Davidjsmith Posted October 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2021 Nuneaton early 1980’s bound for Bell green Coventry not sure where from?There were the trains from Linwood to bell green Mostly Sunbeams mixture of cartics & frightliner vehicles with Chrysler/Talbot containers. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) As the Granada is a pre-facelift Mk.2 (bumper doesn't extend to wheel arch) that would date it between start of Mk.3 Escort production (late Summer/Autumn 1980) and about 1 year later, so 1980-81. Edited October 3, 2021 by BernardTPM 2 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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